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The Ungodly Surveillance of Anti-Porn ‘Shameware’ Apps

68 pointsby luke2mover 2 years ago

8 comments

tolmaskyover 2 years ago
<i>&gt; Fortify’s inclusion of Facebook’s Pixel isn’t just a privacy issue, it’s a security problem. While testing the app, we also noticed that the password to our account was sent in plaintext to Facebook in the URL of the tracking requests. Facebook claims to have filtering mechanisms to prevent its systems from storing this type of personal information, but Fortify’s apparent oversight is still concerning to experts like Galperin. “That’s a huge vulnerability,” she says. “It’s the sort of behavior that makes me feel like they don’t have security experts reviewing the app or its policies.”</i><p><i>&gt; After being notified of the password issue, Olsen said Fortify would stop transmitting users’ unencrypted passwords to Facebook. As we went to press, the issue had not yet been addressed.</i><p>Oftentimes lost in these discussions (even in the posts here so far), is the fact that what is discussed is often done so under the implicit assumption that these tools are written perfectly. But a key consideration with regard to privacy is precisely that that is rarely the case. Even <i>if</i> you think these tools are hypothetically useful, you have to bake into the equation the relatively high probability that all this information will end up hacked and leaked to the public. Under those conditions I feel that it becomes pretty hard to defend these apps.
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sveronaover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m trans and sexually active. I was raised evangelical, amongst the Pokemon-promotes-evolution, Satan-left-bones-in-the-earth-to-trick-us variety. This gives me the willies. It reminds me of being six years old and questioning whether everything I saw that wasn&#x27;t church was evil.<p>I dealt with suicidal thoughts for many years, largely because my rearing amounted to being shoved in a box and told not to come out.<p>Also, &quot;Covenant Eyes&quot; sounds like it came straight out of <i>The Handmaid&#x27;s Tale.</i>
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CoastalCoderover 2 years ago
The article doesn&#x27;t strike me as super biased, but it may be a bit shallow regarding the issues.<p>If one doesn&#x27;t start with the premise that Christian beliefs are bogus, then I&#x27;d be interested in:<p>- How could someone realistically use the modern Internet and still avoid content that starts them down unwelcome paths? (A secular analogue might be suicide ideation.)<p>- How could that guy&#x27;s accountability partner have better recognized false positives?<p>- How could that guy&#x27;s accountability partner been more of a friend and less of a (seeming?) jerk?<p>- Is an app store provider truly inclusive if they disallow apps that make privacy tradeoffs that appeal to one religion&#x27;s adherents but not to another&#x27;s?
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syrrimover 2 years ago
We thought that access to better technology would make people more free, but there are many ways it can make us less free instead. First through differential control of technology; whoever has control of some new tech will be able to use it to disempower others. Second is through robbing us of agency; technology can make it too easy for us to do things we don&#x27;t want to do, causing us to do them against our will. At some point we will need to confront these issues.
ASalazarMXover 2 years ago
The &quot;Covenant Eyes&quot; app is fortunately unavailable at the Google Play store right now, but the Exodus Privacy analysis[0] doesn&#x27;t show permissions far off from other, more benign apps. It&#x27;s unsettling that this common set of permissions is enough to monitor your activity, who knows what, say WhatsApp does with all the permission it asks[1]?<p>0. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;reports&#x2F;com.covenanteyes.androidservice&#x2F;latest&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;reports&#x2F;com.covenan...</a><p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;reports&#x2F;com.whatsapp&#x2F;latest&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;reports&#x2F;com.whatsap...</a>
witheldover 2 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;ACtMy" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;ACtMy</a>
uticusover 2 years ago
&gt; While these apps claim to have helped many people overcome pornography addictions, experts who study sexual health are skeptical that the apps have a lasting positive effect. “I’ve never seen anyone who’s been on one of these apps feel better about themselves in the long term,” says Nicole Praus, a scientist at the University of California, Los Angeles, who studies the effects of pornography on the brain and the spread of disinformation on sexual health. “These people just end up feeling like there’s something wrong with them when the reality is that there likely isn’t.”<p>&gt; &quot;“It’s really not about pornography,” says Brit, a former user of Accountable2You who asked to only be identified by her first name, due to privacy concerns. “It’s about making you conform to what your pastor wants.”<p>&gt; &quot;In the quest to curb behavior churches deem immoral...&quot;<p>Full transparency: Christian male here. The article seems to be addressing multiple topics - on the surface, the concerns around information leaking with &quot;Covenant Eyes&quot; and other programs. But also (based on this quote) an undercurrent: is pornography consumption actually unhealthy?<p>This adds confusion to a very clear topic.<p>Pornography comes from &quot;porneia,&quot; a Greek word. In ancient Greek &quot;porneia&quot; was understood in the culture as &quot;to buy.&quot; A porne or prostitute was often a slave, and often abused. Writings of Horace and Herodas show the cultural attitude of porneia was about treating people as things - to buy, to use, to abuse. In other words, very much accepted culturally. Based on this historical evidence, I conclude that, had WIRED existed in ancient Greece, an expert who studies &quot;the spread of disinformation of sexual health&quot; would have likely said the same thing about porneia consumers as they apparently do now: &quot;there likely isn&#x27;t something wrong with the owner.&quot; Imbibe in some porneia? Don&#x27;t feel bad, there&#x27;s nothing wrong with you.<p>A counterpoint is the letter to Galatians, which despite their failings I&#x27;m sure people in the churches mentioned in the article would know of. That letter, starting with the foundations of how God views people and the freedom Christ purchased, draws the conclusion that people should treat other people as people, not things. In fact, this is one of the points of the 19th verse, which says porneia (lit from Greek) is something Christians should realize isn&#x27;t fitting for Christians. It is, in fact, unhealthy. If my Pastor wants me to &quot;conform&quot; to this (ref second and third quotes above), sign me up!<p>You may disagree that the letter to Galatians has authority or relevance to you personally, but it&#x27;s impossible to disagree with the letter&#x27;s outlook towards people - people as people, not things. In fact, that letter&#x27;s outlook was radical, based on the cultural norms of that time.<p>If we don&#x27;t disagree with the undercurrent espoused in this article - that porneia consumption is actually okay - then what foundation is left for saying it&#x27;s wrong to treat people as things?
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clarge1120over 2 years ago
The idea that good and evil are up for grabs, and that Christian faith has no say to define it is bigotry.
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