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Ask HN: Can you truly get behind an idea that's not your own?

12 pointsby navanitover 16 years ago
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16 comments

SwellJoeover 16 years ago
Of course, and I emphatically reject the premise of the question. It'd be impossible for any great company to exist without this possibility. Besides that, the best businesses are usually actually many ideas from many people that result in a great series of products. Read <i>Built to Last</i>. The whole point of a company, rather than a sole proprietorship, is for many people to work together for common goals.
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donniefitz2over 16 years ago
I personally tried to do this very thing and could not. I had a great opportunity to work with a friend on a startup. I did it for a while, but the fire was just not there. I eventually parted ways (on good terms) and pursued my own idea. I am much more on fire for my own idea. Selfish? Maybe.
metaguriover 16 years ago
I agree with what's been said. You need a "..."<p>Can you truly get behind an idea that's not your own... if you have another reason for being there?<p>Yes.<p>I want to start my own company (based on my own idea) some day, but I'm learning hell of a lot (and saving up cash) working at another company, on someone else's idea. Getting behind that idea, even if I'm not necessarily passionate about it, is important, because that's the only way I'll do a good job and actually learn what it's like.<p>So yeah. I think it's important to gain some experience before setting out on your own. It's a safer route if you don't have people to fall back on if your first (or second or third) attempt fails
timcedermanover 16 years ago
Absolutely. I was sold on the tech behind my old startup and was given the opportunity to contribute my own ideas to improving it, giving me a sense of ownership. This was key to my devotion to the company.
profgublerover 16 years ago
I think you can. The task of the entrepreneur is getting everyone else passionate about the idea. Give them ownership in the idea, let them help you create something great and not just build it. America and the constitution were founded because a lot of people were passionate about the idea of freedom. The leaders got people behind the vision of what they could have. And that was a lot harder than getting people to get behind a start up, because people gave their lives for that idea.
JacobAldridgeover 16 years ago
Yes, you can get behind an idea that's not your own as long as you have a consistent vision or intent with the person who generated the idea.<p>As an extreme example, if I were passionately committed to solving world hunger and the guy running the start-up I worked for found a solution, commitment to that idea would be possible.<p>Ideas are about Strategy - and Vision / Personal Intent are more powerful than Strategy.
bkbleikampover 16 years ago
As long is the idea is something you believe in and you can make meaningful contributions and help shape the product/service, then yes, I think anyone can get behind something they believe in.<p>Look at how many religious people they are - they all emphatically support an idea that was not their own.
fallentimesover 16 years ago
Yes.<p>As long as you enjoy working on it why not? Besides, once you start working, the idea changes anyway. Very few ideas stay true to form the whole way through. I think the problems arrive when the people "behind" the idea are completely unwilling to change it at all.
arienover 16 years ago
Good ideas can inspire you even if they are not your own, in any case, you probably end wishing you had thought about it before :) Although it probably also depends on the person who explains you the idea (their ability to let you see the point, their enthusiasm...).
jacobscottover 16 years ago
I think the answer to this is obviously yes. Do you use email? Sorting algorithms? Automobiles? Can you not get behind the Internet?<p>Would anyone really say no? Maybe you meant to ask a more specific question?
mynameishereover 16 years ago
You think Gates invented OSes or interpreters, or that Brin/Page invented search,.or Jobs invented the Walkman, or that Ford invented Automobiles, etc etc etc etc ad nauseum. Get real.
DanielBMarkhamover 16 years ago
I've found that true love for the idea comes <i>after</i> you jump in and start owning/developing it. Fake or surface enthusiasm happens when you're just speculating or supposing. In a lot of ways, this is like the difference between seeing a pretty girl in a magazine or something and actually meeting and getting to know a pretty girl. In one case, you're just falling in love with your self-delusion about how something might turn out. In the other case, you're actually experiencing reality and developing a deep relationship.<p>I love cool ideas. But I really love the cool ideas I'm executing. So execution counts more than initial infatuation, even though it doesn't always seem so before you get started.
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lackerover 16 years ago
If you believe in it, the idea belongs to you too.
vakselover 16 years ago
yes provided the person has an actual interest in the niche that you are trying to get into.
albertcardonaover 16 years ago
Is that what a PhD thesis is? Someone internalizing the advisor's/funding provider's ideas (and building them up)?
ram1024over 16 years ago
If people couldn't support an idea that wasn't their own, we'd never see any startups funded...