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Why Disconnecting from Your Phone Is So Good for You – and How to Do It

85 pointsby ppjimover 2 years ago

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nonrandomstringover 2 years ago
It&#x27;s not just that &quot;smartphones are like tobacco&quot;. It&#x27;s like we&#x27;re in a world where doctors tell you that smoking is good, businesses and government require you to smoke, and we give free cigarettes out to children to get them hooked.<p>Like all addictive habits and substances there&#x27;s a cast-iron correlation between availability and use, so, sure, creating barriers like boxes and locks can help.<p>But I do think articles like this have a &quot;feelgood&quot; disingenuous message - that you can &quot;just say no&quot; when you want to exercise individual choice. You still, can, but at some cost.<p>It misses the complex psychological webs that addictive agents weave within families and societies. Drugs (digital ones too) are a social problem as much as an individual issue - as I explored in Digital Vegan [1].<p>We&#x27;ve discussed here before something as simple as my reasonable request for students to voluntarily surrender their phones during an exam. Many comments were indignant and furious.<p>Many obsessive things can hijack the mind, even falling in love, or the rush of exercise. Historically, few except alcohol, had widespread daily availability. Tobacco was an issue as much about the advertising industry as the harms of cigarettes. Smartphones fall into a hitherto uncharted category - damaging agents that society is organising itself around so as to almost mandate their harms (EDIT: Ok automobiles are a precedent, and look where that&#x27;s getting us).<p>The effects of reduced attention, poor concentration and productivity, disorganised spending, surveillance fatigue, performance anxiety, obsessive and compulsive behaviours, accidents due to reduced situational awareness, e-waste, negative impact on relations with children, family and friends... are all externalities to a multi-billion dollar industry that is insinuating itself <i>structurally</i> into our way of life.<p>My belief is that it&#x27;s unnecessary, creates more harms than benefits, and is dangerous from a social resilience perspective.<p>That&#x27;s a different conversation from &quot;put it in a pouch if you don&#x27;t want to be distracted&quot;, and let&#x27;s not pretend otherwise.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;digitalvegan.net" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;digitalvegan.net</a>
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8K832d7tNmiQover 2 years ago
&gt; Make your phone less accessible<p>&gt;One of the best ways to disconnect from your phone is to get some physical distance from it. “Let’s say you have your little workstation at home—try to keep your phone behind you on the shelf,” Olson advises. Much of our phone use is mindless, so “putting up these little barriers, like keeping it behind you, face down, can be effective.” Keeping your phone in another room while you sleep is another particularly helpful strategy, he adds.<p>As someone who spends most of the time in front of the computer, I cannot believe how effective this strategy works for me.
Brajeshwarover 2 years ago
I have meant to write out my approach to distraction-free device life. Unfortunately, it is always a work in progress, and I keep finding more straightforward, essentialistic, and lesser ways of getting things done while being extra-device-free.<p>So, here are the titbits that come to my mind right now. Of course, the shameless plug that I throw at anyone starts with a No Voice Call[1] rule, except the list of people on my earmarked “!DND” group.<p>A smartwatch (Apple Watch) helped me further my lifestyle. I have not taken my phone on my morning and evening walks. I usually don’t look at text messages, and notifications, so it works for me.<p>I do not have most of the standard apps, no social media apps, and no notifications except for the health app, which is mirrored on the watch to ping me if I need to walk around, breathe, etc. I wrote an article in 2014 to answer a common recurring question that I fielded, and it still holds to this day - disable all notifications[2].<p>The other thing I find helpful and am used to these days is that my phone is the most boring. The only thing I use most often is a Camera (this is where I realize that the best-sized iPhone 13 Mini lacks a good Camera). Here is my Phone Home[3] evolution, and you can see the onset of boredom as we progress by the year and versions.<p>I want my phone to behave as that tool that does its job, then gets out of the way. No, I do not reject new technology innovations; instead, I refuse the ways of the people how they engage with these tools.<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;phone.wtf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;phone.wtf</a><p>2. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brajeshwar.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;missing-step-productivity-activities-stop-notifications&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brajeshwar.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;missing-step-productivity-activi...</a><p>3. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brajeshwar.com&#x2F;etc&#x2F;phone-home&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brajeshwar.com&#x2F;etc&#x2F;phone-home&#x2F;</a>
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valenterryover 2 years ago
IMHO, first and easiest step is to just set your phone to full silent mode (no vibration) and create exceptions only if necessary (e.g. work calls, emergency family calls, ...).<p>For me that made a big difference. I check my mails&#x2F;chats etc. when I feel like it and I don&#x27;t get any notifications that disturb me.
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thefzover 2 years ago
I set up timers in Android on Reddit and Instagram. 20 minutes for each is already too much. Never looked back. Now, if I could convince myself to do the same with RSS...
hericiumover 2 years ago
People stare at me weirdly when I say that I don&#x27;t have my phone on me.
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maegulover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m a completely naive fan of smart watches (as I don&#x27;t own one and probably won&#x27;t any time soon) just because of the possibility to reduce much of what the smart phone provides down to a less attention stealing device. Maybe the notifications are the major problem (I&#x27;m naive on this) but I figure that that big screen with an internet behind it is just cognitive cancer. Take the screen away and you&#x27;re left with music phone calls and an awkward text messaging interface.<p>Don&#x27;t know if cellular&#x2F;network connectivity and battery life can hold up to be practical, but if a device were somewhat larger just to accomodate this I&#x27;d think about (less naively).
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mark_l_watsonover 2 years ago
I have subscribed to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;freedom.to&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;freedom.to&#x2F;</a> for a few years. Basically they give you the tools to block access to time wasting web sites during whatever daily time periods you configure. They also have useful podcasts about productivity, digital diets, etc.<p>I remove, or don’t install, unnecessary apps on my iPhone. I do install Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, Reddit, etc. on my iPad.<p>I also use an Apple Watch with its own data plan to free me from my iPhone, which I often prefer to leave at home. The Apple Watch lets me get&#x2F;send text message or take a phone call, but, it is not as intrusive
_int3_over 2 years ago
I already disconnected from my Smartphone. I did none of the funny things listed in the article.
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thenerdheadover 2 years ago
I’ve spent majority of my life addicted to technology and screens.<p>I wrote a book about my last few years of how I have been managing this relationship knowing it only gets worse for each new generation(I’m a millennial). And I’m proud of how far I have come in a couple years.<p>Before:<p>I pickup my phone almost 60 times a day. I hardly trust the news but can’t stop doomscrolling for hours. I buy shit I don’t need because I’m constantly served ads about them.<p>After:<p>I pickup my phone maybe 30 times. I don’t even read the news anymore outside of some HN. I haven’t bought any junk in the last year.<p>There’s no silver bullet to this problem. Especially if you already work in tech. Boundaries are important and also jobs to be done for each device. I think the most effective approach for me was mindfulness. Technology is addictive to me. If I have it easily accessible, I will be obsessed with it.
herbstover 2 years ago
I earn my money online so having no phone is sorrily not an option anymore. However I have no phone number only internet, and that&#x27;s off when I am not at home. That locks me out of so many time wasting apps and just allows a handful of useful services and a way to communicate wherever when necessary.<p>No WhatsApp, no Instagram, no whatever abuses sending notifications to my phone. My main emails aren&#x27;t attached either. 99% of all notifications are actually relevant to me right now (family, gf or downtime notifications). If anyone asks for a contact I just give them a email that is not attached to my phone.
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LAC-Techover 2 years ago
Phone is easy, laptop is hard
neilvover 2 years ago
My phone would almost always be offline, if so many Web sites right now didn&#x27;t require SMS 2FA.<p>I&#x27;d much rather use the more secure TOTP, which would let me keep phone in Airplane Mode and DND Mode. Or maybe WebAuthn, with my own USB token.
wseqyrkuover 2 years ago
You only need to disconnect from news and scrollable apps. The rest is harmless.
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kkfxover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m a sysadmin so hardly an IT Luddite, I do my best to NOT use any smartphone, I own some, only one maintained just because my old Nokia can&#x27;t be used anymore lacking GSM SIM cards and even decent GSM coverage where I live, normally left unseen when at home (WFH) or in sort-distance trips where I do not need decent car navigation etc. People can reach me via mail, various VoIP lines on a home PBX with various filtering&#x2F;redirection rules and I&#x27;m VERY happy of that even if so many crush my ** trying pushing me toward WhatsApp, Telegram, Slack, Discord, $PickAProprietaryServiceNameAtRandom.<p>BUT I start seeing more and more third parties &quot;choices&quot; that need to be ANNIHILATED with all the strength needed, nuclear bombs included, forcing me on a mobile:<p>- banks who pretend a crapplication is needed to access they crappy porcals (portals are another thing) while we have OFX&amp;c since decades so even no need at all of a portal and far more secure physical OTP logins where a time-based attack is just theoretical while the large set of craphones vulnerabilities might easily allow to made a transfer to some exotic place on my behalf and I have nothing to prove that&#x27;s no me...<p>- cars, EVs in particular (GRRTRRRRRE£$*&quot;£y$&quot;%&quot;), their public-private charging infra (&amp;$&quot;&amp;t$&quot;£$&quot;£$&quot;!!!!) who do their best to force MULTIPLE crapplications to do absolutely dumb things that does not need nor benefit from such approach at all (except of course for the sake of surveillance capitalism)...<p>- PUBLIC ADMINISTRATIONS who do their best to tie public services&#x2F;mandatory acts like paying taxes, to craphones and crapplications with a craploads of ridiculous excuses...<p>And so on. Long story short, YES cut the tie to the genital with the macrospy&#x2F;electronic anklet of the condemned, without being one of them is SOOO good, and it&#x27;s even easy if we are not so much intoxicated by modern chem-less drugs BUT many do their best to impose such tie, you like it or not and that&#x27;s the real battle we need to win for the sake of civilization.
verisimiover 2 years ago
I never knew...
knaik94over 2 years ago
I dislike this and similar articles because there is so much poor science in them and yet the authors always write in a very patronizing way. Correlation isn&#x27;t causation. There is some good journalism but this is not it.<p>It&#x27;s very clearly written from the perspective and mindset of someone that grew up without the internet. Asking most people who end up doom scrolling on social media if it&#x27;s something that makes them happy and they will reply no, they are just bored. There are some valuable tips for people who want to move towards a tech-lite lifestyle. That&#x27;s great and a personal choice, but it does not mean that people who decide they don&#x27;t want to give up social media and technology are &quot;addicted&quot;.<p>Your brain doesn&#x27;t respond to &quot;hits&quot; of &quot;dopamine&quot;, if your dopamine system is disordered, you should look into getting tested for ADHD if you haven&#x27;t. Every one of negative consequences they imply as being caused by an &quot;addiction to a screen&quot; actually go back to something bigger like ADHD.<p>&quot;It has been proposed that genetic variants of dopaminergic genes and other “reward genes” are important common determinants of reward deficiency syndrome (RDS), which we hypothesize includes ADHD as a behavioral subtype.&quot; [1]<p>Phone usage past reasonable boundaries is a symptom of something bigger, just like binge eating, impulse control disorders, addiction, and every other negative they listed in the article is. Impulse control disorder can cause weight gain which causes low self-esteem which feeds into a toxic cycle that leads to morbid obesity. There&#x27;s an equally toxic cycle that can happen from using technology for escapism. But we shouldn&#x27;t blame technology just like we don&#x27;t blame food as the reason for a binge eating disorder.<p>Subjective overuse of technology isn&#x27;t and shouldn&#x27;t be treated the same way. It corrupts the definition of what an addiction is. As someone that grew up with internet from a very early age, articles like sound like feel good articles written for people who think they are better than others for not using technology.<p>Generalizing phone usage as &quot;screen time&quot; shows a clear lack of understanding of just how many different things can be done using a phone. Being &quot;practically fused to their phones&quot; isn&#x27;t a crazy that should be seen as abnormal behavior, it&#x27;s how to function in modern society. People that grew up without technology or choose to be out of touch, can&#x27;t understand how much of teenage and young adult culture making happens in via technology.<p>I have this theory that I have been seeing more and more evidence for, the idea of generations dictated by what you grew up with is not going to be useful for the future. Internet has reached a point where physical distance no longer matters. IRC was ahead of its time with how it allowed people to connect to others across the world in a somewhat anonymous way. We&#x27;re finally seeing kids grow up that have never experienced a world that wasn&#x27;t connected. Kids today go on discord and gaming lobbies and can connect to thousands of others across the world just based on shared interests.<p>The idea that technology separates a parent from their kid is more a reflection on the cultural difference between a parent that decided they don&#x27;t want to use a lot of technology and a child that embraces technology and understands that&#x27;s how the rest of their peers are too.<p>&quot;The internet has also become a crucial meeting place for children to exercise their right to freedom of expression by connecting with others online. Many children surveyed can be considered ‘active socializers’ who take part in a number of social activities online each week – such as chatting with friends and networking with those who share their interests. Our research suggests that children who socialize more actively online are better at managing their online privacy, which helps to keep them safe.<p>“Online, I can show my true self, there are no rules … I have more than 5,000 friends online.”<p>- Boy, who identifies as gay, 15, Philippines&quot; [2]<p>Unicef, office of research-innocenti, has released a fantastic report on the trends and challenges kids growing up in a technology drive world will face. I recommend anyone thinking of using pre-internet mentality as boundaries for their kids read it. Things like not giving a child a phone until their are in high school is going to severely limit their child&#x27;s ability to socialize.<p>&quot;But faced with complex and fast-evolving technologies, many parents do not feel confident enough to supervise their seemingly tech-savvy children. Parents may also be influenced by popular worries about ‘excessive screen-time’, ‘internet addiction’ and ‘stranger danger’. The temptation is therefore to restrict children’s internet use rather than to guide them to use the internet safely.<p>Instead of limiting internet use, parents can get involved in children’s online lives by encouraging them to learn from the internet or suggesting ways to use the internet safely. By taking a more positive and supportive stance, parents can help their children develop resilience while also reducing conflict between parent and child. In most of the 11 countries surveyed, such enabling mediation helps children to engage in a wider range of online activities and slightly reduces their exposure to risk.&quot; [2]<p>Adults aren&#x27;t different from kids in this way. It&#x27;s fair to worry. It&#x27;s understandable that adults who reduce screen time for themselves feel better. But that&#x27;s not because there&#x27;s something bad about technology, taking a break gives people room to re-examine their life. It&#x27;s a personal choice to live a technology-lite lifestyle, but society as a whole is becoming more technology based. During covid the entire workforce and education system became technology based, I didn&#x27;t hear parents complaining about screen time for virtual classes. I heard parents complaining that they struggled will encouraging kids to want to learn. I tutor on the side and I got non-stop calls from parents reaching out because they want to me help get their middle school-early high school aged kids motivated to learn and care about grades.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC2626918&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pmc&#x2F;articles&#x2F;PMC2626918&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.unicef-irc.org&#x2F;growing-up-connected" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.unicef-irc.org&#x2F;growing-up-connected</a>