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PostHog Cloud EU

22 pointsby pimterryover 2 years ago

4 comments

acattonover 2 years ago
Hosted in Europe, but on AWS which is a US company bound by the patriot act.<p>There are tons of decent european-based cloud providers,… like upcloud, Scaleway, exoscale or OVH to name the ones at the top of my head.<p>I would love to know what motivated this choice outside of &quot;nobody got fired buying IBM&#x2F;AWS&quot; or résumé-driven development.
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openplatypusover 2 years ago
How does this help if you are an US corporation and can be compelled by US surveillance laws?
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dijitover 2 years ago
&gt; Where are PostHog Cloud EU&#x27;s servers based?<p>&gt; PostHog Cloud EU is hosted in the AWS eu-central-1 region based in Frankfurt, Germany.<p>So, no real benefit over using AWS?<p>If your argument is that AWS isn&#x27;t legally bound by the EU, you&#x27;re mistaken as they&#x27;re operating in Ireland at the very least.
hnbadover 2 years ago
This feels redundant given that the current interpretation of EU privacy laws is that US companies can not be used under GDPR compliance because the EU-US Privacy Shield agreement has been killed by US courts ruling that federal agencies are allowed to access data stored on overseas servers. This also extends to EU subsidiaries of US companies but it seems that PostHog doesn&#x27;t even try to make that distinction.<p>If your first thought is that this would render EU companies unable to use common cloud providers like AWS, Google Cloud or Azure, you&#x27;re not wrong, although most EU companies are likely unaware of this as it&#x27;s the outcome of a recent court case and not entirely settled.<p>As a EU resident I would advise EU companies to avoid all US service providers and their subsidiaries where possible, regardless of where their servers are located until the US legislature makes explicit guarantees protecting EU servers from being accessed by US law enforcement without going through the apropriate international channels (which would include notifying all affected EU residents of the access).<p>I realize this can&#x27;t always be avoided but replacing Google Analytics with another US company over GDPR concerns seems a lot of effort for no effect when there are self-hosted and EU-based alternatives available.