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Scientists claim that overeating is not the primary cause of obesity

6 pointsby Riseedover 2 years ago

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proc0over 2 years ago
The study is highlighting how overeating is not the ONLY variable to consider if someone is obese, but surely... it is a necessary one, at least in most cases. Is there any case that will result in getting fatter from reducing calories? They mention it&#x27;s about insulin resistance, and that happens after you overeat at least carbs and sugars. So overeating is always a factor, especially considering how many processed foods are high calorie, which means it&#x27;s easier to overeat calories.<p>I would even go as far to say that in modern times almost everyone is overeating in terms of calories. Three meals a day is a lot, and it&#x27;s why so many gain weight after 30. We have grown accustomed to thinking getting old means getting fat, but I think that&#x27;s just because of how calorie dense our modern diet is.
thaanpaaover 2 years ago
Having studied this for some 20 years, I too am pretty convinced that &quot;calories in, calories out&quot; is little more than naive thinking. That&#x27;s just not how the body works.<p>Yes, often you&#x27;ll hear things like &quot;studies show that approx. 20 % are successful at weight loss&quot;. But the definition of weight loss in those studies tends to be something like &quot;maintained a weight loss of 5 kg or more after 5 years.&quot; Since one&#x27;s weight can easily fluctuate +-1,5 kg during the course of the day, that should feel a bit underwhelming. And that&#x27;s not even the whole truth, or anything even near the truth —<p>If you look at people who have a lost a significant amount of weight (20-40 kg), the success rate drops to essentially zero (&lt;1%). So as far as studies can tell, it seems to be very difficult, if not impossible, to lose a large amount of weight by calorie deficit alone. The body seems to have a set point weight that it still prefers years and years after significant weight loss.<p>In fact, even gastric bypass patients often gain back a significant amount of weight 5-10 years after surgery. And those people people typically can&#x27;t eat sugary foods, because it makes them ill, and they can only eat very very small portions (the stomach is reduced to the size of a lemon). Still they somehow manage to gain weight!<p>In fact, I have a hypothesis that very low calorie diets are one of the CAUSES of morbid obesity. People who go on VLCDs tend to follow a cycle whereby they lose around 10–20 % of body weight and then gain back around 15–30 % within 2-3 years. Repeat that a few cycles, and an overweight person will quickly be morbidly obese.
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hirundoover 2 years ago
<p><pre><code> The authors argue ... obesity as a metabolic disorder driven by what we eat, rather than how much. </code></pre> Agree. Overeating is caused by malnutrition. A lack of needed nutrients, even with too many calories, fails to satiate. A diet dense in the required nutrients satiates and suppresses overeating. For me the primary missing component was protein. Fixing that cured my binge eating and morbid obesity.
josephcsibleover 2 years ago
(2021)<p>&gt; Public health messaging exhorting people to eat less and exercise more has failed to stem rising rates of obesity and obesity-related diseases.<p>Isn&#x27;t that just because people don&#x27;t follow the messaging?
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