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Low Earth Orbit Visualization

780 pointsby aseidlover 2 years ago

43 comments

ubjover 2 years ago
Those long, straight-line convoys of Starlink satellites are fascinating. There&#x27;s a few of them I could see scattered around the Earth. At what point do they start breaking up into unrelated orbits?<p>Looking forward to using this website to try spotting satellites at night. There&#x27;s something strangely thrilling about seeing objects in the night sky that were placed there by people.
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jcimsover 2 years ago
If the earth is 750 pixels wide in the default zoom, each pixel is 10mi&#x2F;16km. Scale image of the ISS would be roughly 1&#x2F;150th of a pixel.
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nerdponxover 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t really know what I&#x27;m looking at here, but it feels very sci-fi and I&#x27;m into it.<p>I also wonder, how do they track so many objects? Who actually tracks them? How much does it cost (energy, engineers) to maintain the tracking systems?<p>Edit: Are these all <i>simulated</i> orbits? Is there a big &quot;orbit registry&quot; somewhere? And what are the &quot;beams&quot;?
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geenewover 2 years ago
This made me look up a link to my old favourite for this kind of thing, CelesTrak.org . Unfortunately, they discontinued their visualizer due to licensing problems.<p>For posterity, this was the tutorial: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=wC90GyHMabk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=wC90GyHMabk</a><p>The announcement is here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;CelesTrak&#x2F;status&#x2F;1547264390650527744" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;CelesTrak&#x2F;status&#x2F;1547264390650527744</a><p>For now, the person behind it&#x27;s got a (informative) error message showing up: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;celestrak.com&#x2F;cesium&#x2F;orbit-viz.php" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;celestrak.com&#x2F;cesium&#x2F;orbit-viz.php</a><p>He&#x27;s asking for donations, might be worth it. It was a good tool.
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daveslashover 2 years ago
Previous Comment Threads:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24773462" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24773462</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=26309367" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=26309367</a>
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baron816over 2 years ago
These kinds of visualizations give you the impression that LEO is much more crowded than it actually is.
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NickC25over 2 years ago
That&#x27;s really cool. I know this comment is low-effort, but I don&#x27;t really care - this type of real-time visualization is really interesting and I want to see more of this sort of thing going forward.<p>That said, the blue dots are &quot;unknown&quot; - what could those possibly be? Not trying to be conspiratorial or anything, but is it some sort of debris from classified operations or foreign intelligence operations?
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fnordpigletover 2 years ago
I’ve played kerbal space program for over 500 hours and I can confirm LEO looks like this in my game.
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johnklosover 2 years ago
Scott Manley, unsurprisingly, did a nice video showing what it&#x27;d look like if you could see all the satellites and debris in space from the surface of Earth. It&#x27;s scary how much stuff there is up there.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dJNGi-bt9NM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dJNGi-bt9NM</a>
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hammockover 2 years ago
How do you launch a satellite without risking running into one of these things on the way up? Do you have to calculate the trajectories of all of them individually?
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MR4Dover 2 years ago
The fact that I can view LEO objects in real-time on a phone just shows how awesome technology has become.<p>Even 10 years ago, that thought would have been ludicrous.
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barbazooover 2 years ago
This is fascinating. Can someone point me to resources that explain Starlink&#x27;s seemingly (but obviously not) random trajectories as well as their positions (some in a line, some on individual trajectories).
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xwdvover 2 years ago
Imagine a visualization of all debris and litter that’s on the <i>ground</i>. Low Earth Orbit is very clean by comparison. This visualization makes it seem impassable and treacherous.
russellbeattieover 2 years ago
Imagine if this was to scale and each of the satellites was a giant floating city the size of Tokyo or LA? I wonder how many centuries will pass before that becomes a reality.<p>It&#x27;s sort of interesting that there&#x27;s been a wonky steam punk movie about battling cities roaming the Earth, gobbling each other up, but none about the more plausible future where there are battles between giant orbiting cities who pass their hated rivals once every certain number of years.
rajeshp1986over 2 years ago
How is this built? Is this built on d3.js? This reminded me of old flash style plugins which we don&#x27;t see any more.
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pbmangoover 2 years ago
This looks extremely crowded - but reminds me of how apparently hard it was to find or bump into another ship crossing even a confined sea like the Med before sonar. With three dimensions here and more avoidance planning, even this level of space probably looks <i>very</i> empty still.
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mortenjorckover 2 years ago
If you enter &quot;1&quot; for the visualization speed, is that the actual recorded velocities?
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gtirloniover 2 years ago
Enable Debris and be shocked.
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noudover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m amazed how large satellites have become. They are larger than small countries, like Luxembourg, Cyprus, Trinidad, ... How do they get these huge satellites up in space? Unbelievable...
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simlevesqueover 2 years ago
Can someone fill me in quickly on what are &quot;instruments&quot;?
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martinky24over 2 years ago
Neat. I wonder if this is solely generated from their array of distrbuted sensors, or if this is just another visualization tool using space-track.org&#x27;s data.
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insane_dreamerover 2 years ago
Amazing that each piece of debris is ID&#x27;d and tracked.
social_quotientover 2 years ago
I wonder how much light is blocked by this stuff floating around? Seems like there are parallel efforts to make atmospheric dust while this is already up there.
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greyhairover 2 years ago
Does anyone know what the altitude scaling is on this?
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ck2over 2 years ago
We need &quot;Space Roombas&quot;™<p>Starlink was first but what happens when a dozen companies eventually want to put up their own 10,000 low-orbit satellites?
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DemocracyFTW2over 2 years ago
&quot;Oh my god it&#x27;s full of junk&quot;
poulpy123over 2 years ago
I&#x27;m impress by the number of objects (well mainly starlink) passing over my head every minute
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niixover 2 years ago
Pardon my ignorance, but how in the hell do we get other things into space with all of this in way?
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kylethorneover 2 years ago
Why does New Zealand have so many beams? All of Australia has zero for comparison.
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rtanksover 2 years ago
This is truly fascinating.
rainbringer2000over 2 years ago
Damn that&#x27;s impressive. Its hard to imagine being up that high
rickreynoldssfover 2 years ago
That crashed my browser HARD. Needed a full reboot. Thanks for that!
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FpUserover 2 years ago
This is really nice made and shows how crowded the LEO space is
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ezconnectover 2 years ago
Are the speed realtime? It seems they are really fast.
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insane_dreamerover 2 years ago
The &quot;Unknown&quot; objects are literally UFOs
possiblydrunkover 2 years ago
Is there a way to set the time to &#x27;now&#x27;?
fortysixdegreesover 2 years ago
What tech is powering this?<p>Is it unity or Godot or something?
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club_tropicalover 2 years ago
What&#x27;s going on at the North pole?
Eduardover 2 years ago
There are so many Cosmos satellites
everyoneover 2 years ago
Already looks like Kessler syndrome.
fidlaover 2 years ago
Doesn&#x27;t work in Brave
uwagarover 2 years ago
what do the flat earthers think about this?
spacehuntover 2 years ago
I guess this is US only? The site is horribly broken upon loading. Only after using developer tools I discovered that all scripts and assets return 403 - CloudFront configured to block your country.<p>Edit: I&#x27;m in Hong Kong.
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