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Tumblr and why ‘the porn-friendly era of the internet is over’

43 pointsby nigerian1981over 2 years ago

11 comments

hoppyhoppy2over 2 years ago
See also <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33025477" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33025477</a> 15 days ago
Chernobogover 2 years ago
I think card companies and the related businesses have too much power. I am a board member of a BDSM club operated by a volunteer organization (we are legally a non-profit). We want to implement card payment on our website for membership and event tickets, but when applying for the service that would be the best option in our country, their payment processor rejects the application citing that they don&#x27;t allow things like strip clubs, sexually oriented massage parlors, escort agencies or &quot;any sexually-related clubs or services&quot;. I get that a BDSM club would easily get caught by this wording, but it&#x27;s a social arena where our members can hook up and play, and we don&#x27;t sell any sexual services.<p>Adding insult to injury, the company behind the service loudly markets that they support Pride every year. The payment processor has pictures on their Facebook of employees attending the Pride parade... We&#x27;re not a commercial entity, our activities are legal and we also march under the same (rainbow) flag.<p>Oh, and there is no reasonable appeals process. We initially applied for a different product a while back and got rejected since they had run our web page through Google Translate and determined that we were involved with &quot;public group sex&quot;. Asking the service to get is in touch with the payment processor to clear up the misunderstanding was not possible, they just said there was no way to appeal and our best bet would be to contact them ourselves through their website.<p>&#x2F;rant.
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scotty79over 2 years ago
&gt; The anonymity offered by 4chan lead, perversely, to a uniformity of tone, as users conform to the zeitgeist of the site, unable to build a name for themselves as an individual.<p>That&#x27;s a very interesting observation.
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funkyfourierover 2 years ago
&gt; But the App Store isn’t just a store, it’s also the only way of installing software on the most popular smartphone in the world, and the company’s decisions about what businesses it wants to support have a way of warping the entire culture.<p>In the case of porn this is not much of an issue, but the fact that these companies have that kind if power I find really scary. As stated in the article Apple (and Google too one would think) have the power to shut down many businesses for whatever reason they see fit.
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photochemsynover 2 years ago
Porn is a product designed to draw in consumers, and with social media the business is either targeting marketing to the pool of consumers, or getting the consumers to sign up for some kind of paid monthly plan. Generally speaking, everyone agrees that there should be some kind of regulation of products for various reasons. With porn, the main issue is that the only performers should be consenting adults. The fact that some buyers of social media ad services don&#x27;t want to be affiliated with porn content is a market issue, not a regulatory issue.<p>Note also this is hardly the only controversial class of content. Consider two others: the manufacture of weapons and explosives, and the manufacture of drugs. These also break down on the legal&#x2F;illegal boundary.<p>For example, with weapons, what&#x27;s allowed? YT is full of videos on how to reload gun ammunition, for example, but when it comes to home synthesis of gunpowder needed to reload those cartidges, using the well-known historical recipe (charcoal, saltpetre, sulfur), it seems those are all taken down under &#x27;YT community guidelines&#x27;. Curiously, automatic weapons or machine guns (including disassembly and repair) are also all over YT, even though owning such weapons without a license is about as illegal as home synthesis of explosives is.<p>Another example: drug chemistry. Aspirin is common household medication and is synthesized by the reaction of salicylic acid (from willow bark) with acetic anhydride (basically, dehydrated vinegar). There are no shortage of detailed walk-through videos on how to do this reaction on YT. However, if we simply replace the willow bark extract with opium extract (i.e. morphine), we are now making heroin, diacetylated morphine. No such hands-on walk-through videos seem to exist on YT, or for say, the conversion of coca leaves to cocaine sulfate paste to cocaine hydrochloride or freebase cocaine (i.e. crack). There are of course, no such restrictions on videos about the fermentation of agricultural products and the distillation of the result into strong liquors (does YT block this in Muslim countries?). Growing cannabis is currently a kind of grey area.<p>It seems that social media companies want their user-uploaded content to be in line with the regulatory norms of their viewer&#x27;s host government (and perhaps more fuzzy concepts like local social norms), but those norms, globally speaking, are all over the map.
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digitalsushiover 2 years ago
This article has the same &#x27;checksum&#x27; as people talking about how their artistic college-roommates would clean their dirty artwork up so that they could cultivate a CV that Disney would approve.<p>I&#x27;m wary for the day ML de-anonymizes a popular non-de-plum - someone carefully disguising their artwork to release their passion under one name, and their day-job art under another. Written and visual both seem susceptible to this as we follow the arrow of time.<p>What happens to art when you literally cannot hide your name?
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Zakover 2 years ago
I&#x27;d really like to see more online sharing migrate to decentralized technologies. ActivityPub, used by Mastodon, PixelFed, Friendica and others provides a similar social networking experience without a small set of gatekeepers controlling what kind of content is allowed or a small set of algorithms dictating what gets popular.<p>The technologies to do this are already adequate (though there&#x27;s always room for refinement), but the marketing and onboarding to make it mainstream aren&#x27;t there.
seydorover 2 years ago
This can be better explained by demographics. The people who were in their 20s in the 2000s are now in their 40s and 50s and more conservative overall. If GenZ had control of the internet (which the GenXrs had) you wouldn&#x27;t let your children and your grandma near it (and it would be a Good thing)
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ekianjoover 2 years ago
Isnt the appstore supposed to allow app sideloading in the near future because of recent push from the EU?
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ifqwzover 2 years ago
It&#x27;s not the porn-friendly era. It&#x27;s the free speech-friendly era. It&#x27;s not only pornography that is banned. The wrong thoughts are banned from the app store as well.
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lo_zamoyskiover 2 years ago
What Hegel might have called the cunning of reason at work.<p>Porn has had and is having an extremely destructive and deranging effect on people, especially the young and especially men, especially given its ubiquity and accessibility today on the internet. It corrupts their ability and motivation to seek out and develop healthy relationships with others. I&#x27;m sure it plays some role in the demographic crisis. Whereas Gen X and even Gen Y (Millennials) were first exposed to pornography in very limited ways (the odd Playboy magazine), Gen Z has been practically raised on porn having been exposed to indefinite amounts of it on their smartphones.<p>I welcome the withering of &quot;porn culture&quot; and the crippling of this depraved industry of exploitation and corruption. It destroys individuals and rots societies.
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