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Docker October 2022 Pricing Change FAQ

59 pointsby wiennatover 2 years ago

13 comments

Wowfunhappyover 2 years ago
&gt; The list price of the Docker Business subscription will go up by $3, to $24 per user per month (Business is only available on an annual basis).<p>I hate that this has become an acceptable way to list prices. It&#x27;s not $24 per month, it&#x27;s $288 <i>per year!</i> &quot;Per month&quot; implies the customer can pay that price <i>every month</i>, and also <i>stop</i> paying on any given month.<p>In other news, Docker Business is going to cost 3.3¢ per user per hour. Except you&#x27;re required to pay for the hours you&#x27;re asleep, because the service is offered &quot;on an annual basis&quot;.
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chtituxover 2 years ago
With Pro accounts limited to 100 users, I believe this is a good opportunity to recall [0], that lists businesses that overprice SSO<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sso.tax&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sso.tax&#x2F;</a>
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ilovecachingover 2 years ago
Its unfortunate Docker came out of the VC space instead of being a hobby&#x2F;research project with no intentions of making money. Solomon Hykes could have been the next Linus Torvalds and Docker could have been completely encompassed by a foundation, with the development being funded by a consortium of businesses each keeping each other in check as in the kernel.<p>As it stands Docker seems to have burnt a lot of open source good will, and now people are left choosing between a failed unicorn desperate to monetize or a Red Hat knockoff designed to get you into RHEL. Docker is such a huge ecosystem of tools rolled into one that it&#x27;s bound to live on forever, but the magic is gone.
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Eighthover 2 years ago
&quot;Why are you making these changes?&quot;<p>We want more money, so we&#x27;re charging more money.
skywhopperover 2 years ago
This is a ~15-30% increase. Truly wild. Meanwhile I can’t remember the last time one of the new features made my life easier.
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JOnAgainover 2 years ago
Teams with over 100 users are going from $7 to $24?<p>150 users * 12 months * $7&#x2F;month = $12,600<p>150 users * 12 months * $24&#x2F;month = $43,000<p>Is that right? There are customers who will see their bills more than 3x?
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eddygover 2 years ago
Colima seems like a pretty nice replacement for Docker Desktop on macOS.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;abiosoft&#x2F;colima&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;abiosoft&#x2F;colima&#x2F;</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.arthurkoziel.com&#x2F;replacing-docker-desktop-for-mac-with-colima&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.arthurkoziel.com&#x2F;replacing-docker-desktop-for-ma...</a>
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KronisLVover 2 years ago
For those that don&#x27;t necessarily want to pay for Docker and primarily want to host&#x2F;build&#x2F;use container images, going for self-hosted Nexus can be a more cost effective solution, as I did for my own needs: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.kronis.dev&#x2F;tutorials&#x2F;moving-from-gitlab-registry-to-sonatype-nexus" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.kronis.dev&#x2F;tutorials&#x2F;moving-from-gitlab-registr...</a> (albeit in my case I migrated over from GitLab Registry and now having a proxy registry as well is just an added boon)<p>At this point, even not signing into Docker Hub is perfectly passable, because none of my CI servers ever hit the rate limits, since Nexus can act as a caching proxy, or I can just put my own images in it. It surprises me that this isn&#x27;t the de-facto way of doing things, since currently it seems like Docker Hub has to deal with a needlessly large amount of network traffic and also countless dead&#x2F;abandoned images stored in it (and thus, wasted $$$).<p>I also use a pretty simple setup of Gitea and Drone CI for building my images from a Git repo, which works rather nicely, but perhaps that&#x27;s besides the point (though you can read more about it on my blog). Of course, I won&#x27;t say that building most&#x2F;all of your own container images is necessarily something that you should always do.<p>That said, personally, I decided to focus on Ubuntu as a common base image for my own needs and install software that I need (Node, Python, JDK, .NET, Ruby and so on) inside of it through apt, as well as install updates during build time. This lead to my own container images with common tools across the board, common shared layers (e.g. fewer layers to pull if a similar image is already on the server&#x2F;locally), albeit with fewer space optimizations and some caveats, about which you can read in another article of mine: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.kronis.dev&#x2F;articles&#x2F;using-ubuntu-as-the-base-for-all-of-my-containers" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.kronis.dev&#x2F;articles&#x2F;using-ubuntu-as-the-base-fo...</a><p>Overall, it&#x27;s been a pretty reasonable experience, though I also understand why folks whose time is 10x more valuable than mine might prefer to throw money at someone, or go for images that have a bit more vendor dark magic in them (e.g. installing JDK through apt vs doing so in alternative ways that save on space).<p>As for Docker Desktop, if you want something like it, Rancher Desktop aims to be a passable alternative, though with a slightly different focus: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rancherdesktop.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rancherdesktop.io&#x2F;</a><p>Personally, I don&#x27;t think that they&#x27;ll <i>quite</i> succeed anytime soon, because they have a long road ahead of them, much like Podman did (and still has, for some workloads), but it&#x27;s definitely a promising alternative, given what else the corporation behind it has been capable of (Rancher, RKE and K3s come to mind).
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talhof8over 2 years ago
Docker Inc... so much unrealized potential.
nimbiusover 2 years ago
not to sound snide but...people still pay for docker?<p>podman&#x2F;skopeo&#x2F;buildah exist free of charge and run containers rootlessly. theres even a podman-compose tool to migrate from existing compose orchestration.<p>what does a docker subscription get you? the online service? why is this better than just a $250 vps with 12 cores, 48g of ram, and a TB of storage at some place like Ramnode or Vultr?
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kanonieerover 2 years ago
Can anyone recommend a good Docker Hub alternative for simple image hosting excluding AWS&#x2F;GCP&#x2F;Azure products?
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donutshopover 2 years ago
Shrinkflation hits hard everywhere
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tonotoover 2 years ago
That&#x27;s a bold move, imho.