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The Babylon Bee's Twitter account is no longer suspended

134 pointsby jacobrussellover 2 years ago

10 comments

mikkergpover 2 years ago
Interesting, I wonder if they bulk unsuspended a bunch of accounts, or if they&#x27;re doing it selectively. If they&#x27;re bulk doing it, they must have a way to differentiate between suspended bots and suspended people. realdonaldtrump is still suspended but I imagine that one is coming back.<p>edit&#x2F;add: Now that twitter is private, they don&#x27;t have to publicly disclose mdau or revenue right? It will be interesting to know if Musk&#x27;s changes grow or shrink twitter.
mlindnerover 2 years ago
Their account was never banned and could always be viewed. There&#x27;s nothing in this post that indicates anything has changed.<p>From last week: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20221019005155&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;TheBabylonBee" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20221019005155&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.c...</a>
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Kyeover 2 years ago
A thorough teardown of Babylon Bee&#x27;s loose relationship with reality from an actual biblical scholar&#x2F;talking wolf: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=7V3p1Ip4g4U" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=7V3p1Ip4g4U</a><p>It isn&#x27;t a satire website. It&#x27;s a bigotry website that hides behind satire. They&#x27;re the bully in school who knows how to play the faculty to make their targets look like the aggressor but grown up and far past any excuses.
zeroonetwothreeover 2 years ago
Why was it suspended in the first place?
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MollyRealizedover 2 years ago
For what it is worth, I am a trans person.<p>I believe Babylon Bee should&#x27;ve been suspended not because of any moral issue but because Twitter was not a governmental entity, and thus had any right to set policies as preconditions for its users&#x27; use of the service. No existing social media company is a public communications carrier. I wouldn&#x27;t argue for the DNC having a right to have a Parler account, either.<p>I&#x27;m a poor choice to defend being transgender to those who choose to be biased against it, because I dislike being placed in the position to argue. I just don&#x27;t see it as fruitful because recent science seems to suggest it&#x27;s useless: people don&#x27;t change their mind about things they view as political unless personally affected by a one-on-one interaction.<p>I found these [1][2] to be a far better argument scientifically. Sociologically, I find the concept&#x27;s existed forever and a day, such as one of the Roman emperors, the historical role of eunuchs and two-spirits, or even more quiet acceptances in families. It&#x27;s not new. What&#x27;s new is that the focus that was first on black people and then on gay people has been shifted to transgender people (although certainly the first two groups still suffer persecution - but are not now the continual topic of the Republican Party&#x27;s admonitions and legislation).<p>As for a lot of what&#x27;s controversial, it&#x27;s never been before. Name changes have been a routine legal process for decades now. And, honestly, it&#x27;s not a matter of asking for anything special in 99.9% of situations, it&#x27;s just a matter of treating someone with respect and kindness, or at least with the absence of hostility.<p>My own personal feelings are not really relevant, but I will say briefly, for what it&#x27;s worth, that everything inside me tells me I am a woman - and I am a self-perceptive person and have done a lot of self-questioning since I realized. The phrase &#x27;misgendering&#x27; is a nice, obscure term - what it is, is actively, hostilely choosing to call someone something that hurts them. If you were a male and not the epitome of machismo, do you remember being a child and being called the feminine version of your name on a playground as a taunt? In many cases, most found that effective in hurting them. Why? You were being misgendered.<p>I&#x27;m merely presenting all of the above because no one else trans has appeared in this thread yet. I don&#x27;t really wish to &quot;fight&quot; the position but I do feel responsible for presenting a viewpoint alternate to everything that&#x27;s been discussed here already.<p>[1] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pastebin.com&#x2F;raw&#x2F;ZTZN6MwV" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pastebin.com&#x2F;raw&#x2F;ZTZN6MwV</a><p>[2] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pastebin.com&#x2F;raw&#x2F;19PJDsXc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pastebin.com&#x2F;raw&#x2F;19PJDsXc</a>
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Nursieover 2 years ago
I imagine this will do a speed run of unbanning -&gt; turning into a cesspit of toxicity because ‘free speech’ -&gt; lots of people leave because it’s so unpleasant.<p>It’ll be fun to watch though, as someone that’s never valued the site.
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labradorover 2 years ago
Babylon Bee seems pretty harmless. I find right wing humor to be fairly low-IQ, but they should be able to joke about trans women without getting banned. I&#x27;m a recovering alcoholic and bipolar, so I have to put up with jokes about drunks and manic street preachers. Why should trans get a pass? Heck, I even tell jokes about drunks and manic street preachers myself.
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txsoftwaredevover 2 years ago
Great, they should have never been banned to begin with.
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binkover 2 years ago
It&#x27;ll be very interesting to see what advertisers stick around through all this mayhem.
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PartiallyTypedover 2 years ago
You can expect the Donald to be unbanned. You can also expect twitter to become the same cesspool that truth social is.
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