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A “Safety Emergency” Happened at Wuhan Institute of Virology in November of 2019

51 pointsby themgtover 2 years ago

10 comments

yieldcrvover 2 years ago
Should have just linked to the propublica article, not the article from the fringe website about feeling vindicated from The Left’s national standing committee<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.propublica.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;senate-report-covid-19-origin-wuhan-lab" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.propublica.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;senate-report-covid-19-or...</a>
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wellthatsawrap1over 2 years ago
I&#x27;ll let you in on something else that used to be a conspiracy and is now true. They did it on purpose. Between sanctions and tarifs the Chinese economy was being crushed by Trump. They needed a way to reset the world economy.
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LargoLasskhyfvover 2 years ago
I&#x27;ll just leave this here (again). It made its limited rounds at the beginning of 2020, and allowed me to prepare a little bit. Since it was obvious from that article alone, that it would be going global and causing chaos.<p>This is not speaking about lab-leak. That wasn&#x27;t on the radar at all, at the time. Just the &#x27;denial&#x27; in the beginning from the apparatshiks (globally), and then the panicked lockdown actionism.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chinamediaproject.org&#x2F;2020&#x2F;01&#x2F;27&#x2F;dramatic-actions&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chinamediaproject.org&#x2F;2020&#x2F;01&#x2F;27&#x2F;dramatic-actions&#x2F;</a><p>(Loads slowly, give it time.)
ThePowerOfFuetover 2 years ago
Why are we linking to the rehash instead of the actual article it&#x27;s referring to?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.propublica.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;senate-report-covid-19-origin-wuhan-lab" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.propublica.org&#x2F;article&#x2F;senate-report-covid-19-or...</a><p>@dang perhaps replace the URL?
mindslightover 2 years ago
A lot of people are going to hold up this renewed discussion as vindication, and that is somewhat correct. But the hard truth is that now is the right time to focus on this, and the beginning of the pandemic was simply not.<p>The intelligence of groups scales something like the inverse of Metcalfe&#x27;s law. More people means more memetic mass repeating poor local optima, severely curtailing everyone&#x27;s ability for rational thought. So in a large group the bandwidth to quickly converge on nuanced truths just isn&#x27;t there.<p>We couldn&#x27;t even get wearing a basic respirator, as demonstrated in countless movies about pandemics, to become accepted as common sense until <i>22 months</i> into the pandemic. That&#x27;s how paralyzed we were as a society. The last thing we needed was even more energy being dumped into jingoistic (and other zero-sum) red herrings rather than taking basic care of ourselves.
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origin_pathover 2 years ago
The amount of evidence in the ProPublica article&#x2F;senate report is quite staggering. What&#x27;s interesting is that it&#x27;s clear that US intelligence knew it was a lab leak very early on. Trump&#x27;s comment makes that clear:<p><i>In April 2020, Trump declared at a press conference that COVID-19 — or “kung flu,” as he soon began calling it — had come from a lab in China. When pressed on the evidence for this claim, he declared: “I can’t tell you that. I’m not allowed to tell you that.”</i><p>So he had been briefed with secret intel he wasn&#x27;t allowed to repeat, probably NSA intercepts of some kind. And yet despite this clear statement, it was immediately censored all over the place by tech workers and others who thought they were better than the general public at knowing what&#x27;s true and also better at it than a US President with access to secret intelligence reports.
ksecover 2 years ago
Not sure if any of these are &quot;news&quot;. All air transport to Wuhan was shutdown by mid November. In cases anyone not aware, this cant happen without highest level of CPP approval.
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isitmadeofglassover 2 years ago
&gt; it “unusual” that two military COVID-19 vaccine development teams were able to reach early milestones even faster than the major drug companies who were part of the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed program.<p>That’s such an odd narrative. The major drug companies didn’t join warp speed, and the first western vaccine took 2 days to develop. The slow part wasn’t development it was clinical tests, and getting to market.
cbeachover 2 years ago
Remember how the “fact checkers” of Facebook and co systematically disallowed discussion of this?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;unherd.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;05&#x2F;how-facebook-censored-the-lab-leak-theory&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;unherd.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;05&#x2F;how-facebook-censored-the-lab-lea...</a><p>Sadly we’ll now see even more “fact checking” thanks to the EU’s Digital Services Act.
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yuckyover 2 years ago
I, for one, am grateful that our technocratic overlords protected us from this information for so long. We can&#x27;t be trusted with the truth, it could impact our spending habits.