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Tell HN: Spectrum is blocking TCP/UDP 5060 at my home

146 pointsby another_commentover 2 years ago
For several years, I&#x27;ve run 3 VOIP phones from my house. About a week ago they stopped working. SIP REGISTER started failing.<p>Turns out Spectrum now blocks TCP&#x2F;UDP port 5060. My workaround is to use a VPN. After that, everything is fine.<p>This reddit thread https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;networking&#x2F;comments&#x2F;t8nulq&#x2F;spectrum_is_rate_limiting_voipsip_traffic_port&#x2F; suggests Spectrum was rate limiting 5060 on 300mbps plans, but not on the 100mbps plans.<p>I have the 100mbps plan, and it is definitely affected now.<p>So if you are in SoCal, using Spectrum, and your VOIP phones suddenly stopped working in the last week or so, maybe this will help you.

14 comments

_wlduover 2 years ago
They are probably trying to reduce SIP abuse. It&#x27;s a big problem.
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TheSwordsmanover 2 years ago
At least where I am in SoCal, AT&amp;T literally just deployed fiber with plans up to 5 gigabit&#x2F;s. I&#x27;m so glad to be leaving Spectrum behind, because when moving here I never thought I&#x27;d have a cable Internet provider that made me miss Comcast...<p>So hopefully you have some other options soon. :)
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jeroenhdover 2 years ago
Is that even legal? Blocking network traffic because it competes with their offering?
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thomashabets2over 2 years ago
My ISP breaks traceroute <i>outside</i> of the network. <i>Their</i> transit is cut out of my traceroutes.<p>Full technical story at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.habets.se&#x2F;2022&#x2F;05&#x2F;Another-way-MPLS-breaks-traceroute.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.habets.se&#x2F;2022&#x2F;05&#x2F;Another-way-MPLS-breaks-trace...</a>
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matt123456789over 2 years ago
Guess they want you to pay for their bundled phone plan instead. I’m guessing you can bring this to their attention and get some boilerplate response containing words like “abuse” and “safety”. Prognosis: This will go to court on common carrier terms and the block will be lifted in 3-4 years.
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another_commentover 2 years ago
My call quality also seems better since I&#x27;ve switched on the VPN. I do not have numerical proof of this, but it sure seems like my voice calls are crystal clear now.
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Prolixiumover 2 years ago
FWIW, when I lived in Seattle I found that Lumen&#x27;s DSL service blocked it as well. It wasn&#x27;t an obvious block, though. It was either some DPI or size-based filtering. I wrote it up here for posterity:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.prolixium.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;01&#x2F;23&#x2F;does-centurylink-dsl-block-sip&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.prolixium.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;01&#x2F;23&#x2F;does-centurylink-dsl-b...</a><p>It worked just fine through Comcast&#x27;s Xfinity service (although at the time, that service had other critical issues for me..) and I have no problem now with Verizon Fios.
achilleanover 2 years ago
It looks like port 5060 is becoming less common on their networks:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trends.shodan.io&#x2F;search?query=port%3A5060+org%3Acharter%2Cspectrum#facet&#x2F;overview" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trends.shodan.io&#x2F;search?query=port%3A5060+org%3Achar...</a>
more_cornover 2 years ago
Fuck spectrum. They’re the worst. Drop them for a better carrier.<p>A critical service is nonfunctional. You should not have to VPN for your internet service to work. I can’t believe I even have to say that.
relentlesshackover 2 years ago
Use a session border controller if possible to get around the port blocking.
StayTrueover 2 years ago
Can you use port 5061?
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gsichover 2 years ago
5061&#x2F;tcp is preferrable. It also works with TLS.
Kikawalaover 2 years ago
Are they also blocking 5061 SIP-TLS?
animitronixover 2 years ago
Sue them into the ground
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