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Ask HN: Why has the comment section become so pessimistic?

26 pointsby pmohunover 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve found that HN has become increasingly cynical, and I&#x27;m trying to understand why. Not snarky; serious question.<p>Is it simply because being pessimistic makes you sound smarter?

7 comments

bell-cotover 2 years ago
Partly, what you&#x27;re noticing is a reaction to the vast quantity of baloney that the tech industry generates. (Which baloney might be interesting to taxonomize into techno-utopianism, marketing hype, DilbertCo PHBism, ...)<p>Partly, it&#x27;s because HN&#x27;s stereotypical user is an engineer. Engineers are <i>supposed</i> to tend critical &#x2F; cynical &#x2F; pessimistic - otherwise stuff just doesn&#x27;t work, and Sales gets away with pre-selling &quot;production starts next quarter&quot; pedal-powered supersonic flying cars.<p>Partly, it&#x27;s because folks here recognize that the world has <i>huge</i> problems (injustice, wars, climate change, etc.) which neither their stereotypical skills nor personal aspirations (write awesome code, engineer a cloud solution, scale a startup, take their unicorn public) do anything meaningful to address. And that if things really go to sh*t...then all their 1337 skillz, achievements, money, and possessions will be worth far less than some old Luddite geezer&#x27;s bunker in Montana.<p>(I&#x27;ve noticed for a while that I have a pretty critical &#x2F; cynical &#x2F; pessimistic tone here on HN. <i>For me</i>, that&#x27;s partly because many HNer&#x27;s feels like they&#x27;re a fraction of my age, with a rather narrow education and worldview - so they can need reminding that a whole lot of actually-relevant stuff happened before the web was a thing, and the world doesn&#x27;t &quot;just work&quot; because of {optimistic generalities &amp; hand-waves that a parent might use in explaining society &amp; economics to a kid}):
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errantmindover 2 years ago
It is easier to criticise than actually do anything constructive.
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nonasktellover 2 years ago
We just went through a huge pandemic, a lot of people think we&#x27;re on the brink of WW3, near a financial crisis, big inflation, huge mental and physical health problems.<p>Everyone is on edge, not just HN lol.
cbeachover 2 years ago
Society is polarising thanks to social media, with its self-reinforcing echo chambers.<p>Like&#x2F;dislike buttons promote groupthink and demote comments from critical thinkers whose thinking doesn’t conform to whatever is popular.<p>This makes group-thinkers more tribal and protective of their ideas, while critical thinkers feel ostracised and more defensive about their ideas.<p>Everyone becomes more combative and unhappy.
DeathArrowover 2 years ago
Maybe it&#x27;s because people had delusions and realized they believed in false gods and false religions whose promises never came true.
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amadeuspagelover 2 years ago
Maybe a selection effect. Maybe the more optimistic people are working rather then commenting.
dontbenebbyover 2 years ago
Depressive realism