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Tell HN: Be mindful what you put in your Venmo descriptions

1 pointsby calruebover 2 years ago
This morning I woke up to an email from Venmo titled &quot;Your Venmo Account&quot;. At first I figured I was being phished, but I opened it up, and found the following<p>---<p>[...]<p>On October 31, 2022, you sent a payment for the amount of $48.59 for, &quot;Cuban date.&quot; We&#x27;re trying to understand:<p><pre><code> * your reference to &quot;Cuban.&quot; * purpose of this payment, including a complete and detailed explanation of what you intended to pay for and the establishment&#x2F;location if applicable. </code></pre> To submit your documentation, please use Venmo&#x27;s Secure web form: [...]<p>We thank you for your attention to this matter and apologize for any inconvenience. Your payment has been held until the issue is resolved, so we&#x27;re unable to cancel it. This hold cannot be removed until Venmo receives the requested information that will enable us to ensure our compliance with our regulatory obligations.<p>---<p>This is a real, <i>private</i> transaction I sent my girlfriend to split a dinner we had last week. We went to a Cuban restaurant in San Francisco.<p>I have been a Venmo user for at least 6 years. I have done 100s of transactions, including dozens with my girlfriend. I am annoyed that I now have to go through an opaque, bureaucratic process to get my transaction unlocked. If I knew my Venmo transaction descriptions could trigger fraud checks I would have simply said &quot;date night&quot;. This experience has left a bad taste in my mouth, and I will be considering alternatives. At the minimum, I will be leaving my Venmo descriptions blank or vague!

3 comments

pwgover 2 years ago
You need to educate yourself about FinCEN (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Financial_Crimes_Enforcement_Network" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Financial_Crimes_Enforcement_N...</a>). You&#x27;ll end up with the same issue with alternatives, as no business which handles payments is immune to having to abide by the FinCEN rules.<p>And because Cuba is likely still a country listed as sanctioned, the mention of &quot;Cuban&quot; in the description likely triggered a higher level check to verify you were not trying to transfer money to Cuba via Venmo (which would run afoul of the sanctions).
salawatover 2 years ago
Welcome to OFAC compliance. In case you did not know, it is the finance sector&#x27;s job to make sure you do not transact with any embargoed or sanctioned entities or groups the United States decides shouldn&#x27;t be given entrance to the U.S. financial system. This responsibility is part of doing business.<p>You will not find a licensed payment processor that will not do this type of surveillance&#x2F;due diligence, as they are strictly liable for any violations. If this creeps you out, join the club.
imissfirefoxover 2 years ago
You refer to your transaction as private and yet you use Venmo… I don’t think “private” means what you think it means.