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Show HN: Have fun betting virtual (not real) money on predictions from HN users

150 pointsby rose_ann_over 2 years ago
I wanted to see how difficult it would be to build a web app using a sub-$300 android smartphone. Decided to build a fun predictions website where you could bet virtual (not real) money on predictions made by others, and also make predictions of your own.<p>Building it turned out to be considerably easier and more fun than I anticipated.<p>Primary tools used were:<p># QuickEdit as the mobile code editor (Note: the free version of the QuickEdit app is riddled with ads, it shows an advert each time you close a tab, but it unfortunately had the best UI of the 3 or so Android code editors I tested. Ended up using NetGuard to block it from retrieving &amp; displaying ads),<p># PHP for the Backend ( custom PHP microframework I&#x27;ve used and built on over the past few years ).<p># jQuery for the frontend js (<i>cringing</i>) - it appears I&#x27;m simply too lazy to learn React&#x2F;Vue&#x2F;et al. Every once in a while, I pick one of them to learn, but I always end up returning to jQuery - or time-permitting - amateur level vanilla JS.<p># Bootstrap for the CSS - Battle-tested. For a purely backend dev with minimal design skills, good ol&#x27; Bootstrap (and in a growing number of cases, Tailwind) is always a life saver.<p># Whole thing is hosted on 2 VMs (1 hosting the web app, and 1 hosting Redis &amp; MySQL).<p># As to the site itself, it turned out to be pretty cool to play around with. Go there, view the predictions, bet on the predictions you believe will come true, or against the ones you think will not. You get $50,000 to bet with (not real money). No signup is required to bet, but a quick signup is required to make a prediction. Hope you guys like it, and please be ruthless in telling me of any bugs you&#x27;ve found.<p>So go on here =&gt; kudotap.com<p>And Have Fun!

24 comments

vagab0ndover 2 years ago
Interesting site. How do you decide on the result of a bet? Where do you get the truth? What if the bet is described ambiguously? Or worse yet, something like &quot;This prediction will be false&quot;.
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exabrialover 2 years ago
There is _literally_ nothing wrong with your javascript on the page, FYI. stick with your toolset.
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dvhover 2 years ago
It doesn&#x27;t allow making prediction to 2030 so I just leave it here:<p>I predict that by 2030 none of the top 10 US car manufacturer will offer self driving in their cars (except for simple autobreaking). Even those manufacturers that offer some self driving now will stop offering it by 2030.
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armchairhackerover 2 years ago
What if someone posts a very likely or unlikely bet (e.g. &quot;the next Mega Millions numbers will be ...&quot;? Can everyone bet $30,000 against and then everyone gets $30,000?<p>You may want a system where, the more skewed a bet is, the less money gets paid out by the majority side and more money gets paid to the minority. That way, bets like those don&#x27;t really get you anything, unless you bet the unlikely case and win, then you get a well-deserved jackpot.
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aliljetover 2 years ago
I can&#x27;t not make this joke: Where do I send my BTC?
aoeusnth1over 2 years ago
Is there a good reason to use this over Manifold (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;manifold.markets" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;manifold.markets</a>)?
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echelonover 2 years ago
This is awesome! Kudos (no pun)!<p>I&#x27;d really like to wager real money. Due to gambling laws, I&#x27;d be fine if this went to charity, in a similar vein to longbets.<p>It&#x27;s more about vision and narrative than winning money, anyway. Building esteem for sometimes contrarian viewpoints. (If you can predict where the world is moving, you can make money on that regardless.)<p>An internet track record would be amazing.
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habiburover 2 years ago
Order by most active bets at the top.<p>Right now the page starts with dead claims and you find pretty active and good ones while scrolling down.
alwillisover 2 years ago
Can&#x27;t count the number of times I&#x27;ve wanted something like this for Hacker News!<p>There have been quite a few hot takes (especially about Apple) where I would have bet against that person&#x27;s prediction happening. Glad it&#x27;s an option now.
IIAOPSWover 2 years ago
I predict this platform of yours will still be up and running in a year from now.
sc90over 2 years ago
Consider letting users add an explanation for each prediction so that we know the reasoning behind it.
euphetarover 2 years ago
No way to assign probabilities? I prefer metaculus
pbhjpbhjover 2 years ago
It&#x27;s this just mining HN hive mind for &quot;insider&quot; information?
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algo_traderover 2 years ago
Interesting. Why a 300$ phone?<p>Can u share how long it took to build and what is your day job ?
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oumua_don17over 2 years ago
I predict that your site will be renamed as HNLadsBroke in 2023!!!
texaslonghorn5over 2 years ago
if I click &quot;View the Latest Predictions &amp; Bets on Kudotap&quot; on the homepage and then go back to the homepage, the button is unclickable the second time
hathymover 2 years ago
It would be more fun if you can bet your real HN points :)
jtvjanover 2 years ago
My preferred way of editing text on Android is to run Vim in Termux. If there&#x27;s a terminal editor that you like (nano, emacs, joe, ed are all available too), try running it through there.
demarqover 2 years ago
This is a banger!!<p>I already know I’m going to like it
kaputmiover 2 years ago
Without odds&#x2F;probabilities this is much less interesting!
codetrotterover 2 years ago
&gt; Please fill out the &#x27;Last Name&#x27; field (ensure it contains a least 2 characters (and does not contain any unusual special character)).<p>Please allow a wide range of Unicode characters. I am not able to sign up, because the site does not allow me to type my last name, it seems.<p>The letter “ø” is not an unusual special character..
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sshineover 2 years ago
Behavioural economists as well as poker players know that people make very different decisions when the money is real. The psychology is different.
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TheCowboyover 2 years ago
One ever underrated challenge with prediction markets is creating clear and concise rules for interesting questions, while the easy part is the tech powering the exchange.<p>For example, &quot;James McIntyre is predicting that: There will be a global stock market crash in 2024.&quot; What constitutes a crash here? Or &quot;Patricia Davenport is predicting that: An absolutely massive natural gas discovery will be made by a Southern African country before the end of 2023.&quot; has no clear meaning.
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mwintover 2 years ago
Oh how I wish this existed a couple years ago, when everyone was making various shades of &quot;the world is going to end&quot; predictions. I would be a virtual billionaire!
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