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Holodomor

50 pointsby tareqakover 2 years ago

6 comments

michalxnetover 2 years ago
I recently listened to Behind the Bastards podcast episode 31&#x2F;32 about this guy<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Trofim_Lysenko" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Trofim_Lysenko</a><p>This guy basically fooled his ways of agriculture and biology, rejecting genetics for decades resulting in Holodomor and many more deaths.
gattrover 2 years ago
I strongly recommend Timothy Snyder&#x27;s lecture [1] on this topic (and the whole series in general).<p>[1] The Making of Modern Ukraine. Class 15. Ukrainization, Famine, Terror: 1920s-1930s <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1dy7Mrqy1AY&amp;t=1s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=1dy7Mrqy1AY&amp;t=1s</a>
antifaover 2 years ago
Here is a map of countries that recognize the Holodomor as a genocide: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;rjEv1XC.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;rjEv1XC.png</a>
graymattersover 2 years ago
The famine of the early 1930s in Ukraine and some other territories of then USSR was a natural phenomenon, consistent with the history of every few years bad crops in these highly primitive agricultural territories. Prior to the Soviet rule, public organizations stepped in to help the victims and did so successfully (check the historic records of the Tzarist Russia on the subject). The Soviet rule eliminated such organizations, destroying the social support network for the case of bad crops. However, this is a far cry from deliberate genocide. Ukrainians weaponize this natural disaster to pursue their political goals.<p>The Ukrainians committed genocide against the Jewish population of Ukraine at least 3 times in the history. These genocides should be recognized by the German government and other international institutions before calling an unfortunate natural disaster genocide.
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virtualritzover 2 years ago
A resolution that will finally classify the Holodomor as a genocide in Germany will be decided on by the parliament in four days, on 30. of November.<p>It is expected to pass unanimously.<p>See e.g. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2022&#x2F;nov&#x2F;25&#x2F;germany-set-to-declare-starvation-of-ukrainians-under-stalin-a-genocide-holomodor" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2022&#x2F;nov&#x2F;25&#x2F;germany-set-to...</a>
zackeesover 2 years ago
Holocaust denial is totally acceptable to the media and the establishment when it comes to the Ukraine Holodomor.<p>Even typing Holodomor on iOS indicates that the word is missing from the spell checker. It’s shameful.
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