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For many widows, the hardest part is mealtime (2019)

119 pointsby wallflowerover 2 years ago

14 comments

sokoloffover 2 years ago
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LiquidInsectover 2 years ago
I&#x27;ll be seven months in as of two days from now.<p>I find myself making way too much food, and having to freeze things back. Things I used to make in bulk that would last us 3 meals now take me over a week to finish, if I don&#x27;t just throw it out.<p>If I don&#x27;t want to cook, the thought of going out to eat by myself, getting a table for one, just feels pathetic and I don&#x27;t want to do it. If I order delivery, I still end up getting too much.<p>If I make some new thing, something she never got to try, I feel like crap because it&#x27;s another experience we didn&#x27;t get to have together. Same for going to a new restaurant. All of this will get easier with time but I wouldn&#x27;t wish this life on anyone.
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munificentover 2 years ago
Every time things like this come up, people rightly mention multigenerational households.<p>But then someone else brings up the lack of privacy and imposition of having multiple generations under one roof.<p>What I never heard people talk about, though is <i>changing our architectural practices to support multigenerational households</i>. There are &quot;mother-in-law suites&quot; you see sometimes (though these days they seem to be mostly for renters). But I think there is a huge opportunity to innovate in how we design homes to balance the need for community with larger families against the need for privacy and solitude.
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Zachsa999over 2 years ago
While eating at a restaurant yesterday I saw my old friend who lost his partner to cancer 2 months ago eating alone. He was looking very lonely, and I was struck with how eating is an immense part of our social life as humans.<p>I walked over and chatted after which he looked physically healthier. Let&#x27;s not forget our loved ones.
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notacowardover 2 years ago
There&#x27;s a lesser version of this in the &quot;empty nest&quot; scenario. When my daughter (only child) went to college, there were suddenly some meals I had no reason to cook - it&#x27;s funny how you can miss cooking something you never particularly cared to eat - and many snacks I had no reason to stock. Even the meals I do cook have often needed adjustment for two people instead of three. Still haven&#x27;t found a good half-size pan for my &quot;Hamtramck style&quot; pizza (Detroit style with kielbasa). The kitchen is definitely a sadder place than it used to be, and it does make me wonder about the days when it&#x27;ll be just one.<p>Also, now I understand better why my mother always kept my favorite cookies around even though we only visited once a year or less. I never had the heart to tell her that they were always stale by the time we got there.
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Buttons840over 2 years ago
Several months ago I learned I have celiac disease (the &quot;no gluten&quot; autoimmune disease) and I also have extremely high LDL cholesterol (~200 LDL-C), so I&#x27;ve removed all gluten and almost all saturated fat from my diet. At this point I don&#x27;t believe I can eat out anymore, and yeah, it sucks. So many old friendships were maintained by a lunch meeting every 6 months. Eating is just the default social activity everyone participates in. I don&#x27;t know a replacement for that.<p>The standard American diet lives up to its acronym. It&#x27;s sad that a single food allergy and a goal to follow dietary guidelines eliminates almost all fast food and resturaunt food. Hell, at this point I believe anyone simply wanting to follow saturated fat guidelines is excluded from eating out.<p>Nobody has to die in order for you to find yourself eating alone every meal.
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treeman79over 2 years ago
My dad passed away recently. My mom was constantly trying to cook for me. She did all the cooking for my dad.<p>Was weird in that he wanted food cooked the same exact way as she had done for the last 48 years, no variation tolerated.<p>Trouble being that she was is a terrible cook and he liked his food burnt to hell and loaded with sugar and massive quantities of taco seasoning.<p>Pretty sure Taco Bell is healthier.<p>So I ended up doing all the cooking.<p>She seemed to make up for lack of cooking time by showing me things of his I might want for hours on end for multiple weeks.<p>Me and siblings now have tons of boxes of stuff we don’t want. But it calmed her down for us to take it.<p>I didn’t realize how important making the meals was to her. Not that she cares about the food. She knew it was terrible. She was excited to start eating the way she wants to.<p>But 40+ years of habit is really hard to break.<p>Side tip. We leaned hard way that social security survivor benefits and various pensions will stop immediately and take multiple months to switch to widow benefits. We got her covered. But was a nasty surprise.
fleddrover 2 years ago
Seeing this up close with my mother-in-law. Her husband passed away 2 years ago and she&#x27;s still in the same broken state as the day he died.<p>After 50 years together, the triggers are unavoidable. The town, every place in it, every routine, everything in the house, every action she does...it&#x27;s all connected to him in an inescapable way.<p>She&#x27;s functional but it&#x27;s as if any meaning and purpose was rugged away. She can&#x27;t grow over it or recover, it runs too deep. 50 years isn&#x27;t a phase, it&#x27;s a blended life now brutally ripped apart.<p>She&#x27;s now effectively waiting for it to be over. Still living independently in an apartment building full of her kind, as us men pass early. Her future now holds waiting to become care-dependent, lose all control and dignity, and then some more waiting.<p>Yes, controversial as it may be, I question the humanity of our &quot;humane&quot; approach. But I digress, and would emphasize to cherish your loved ones and your good years.
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euroderfover 2 years ago
When a person is enveloped in grief, cooking a meal is the most impossible thing to do. The reasons are many, but it is so.<p>If someone you know has just lost their loved one, in those days soon after, visit them, and take containers with some meals you have prepared. Like, heat&#x27;em and eat&#x27;em.<p>Even if you only go to check in and hug and drop them off.<p>It will relieve that person of a burden.
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Insanityover 2 years ago
My grandmother became a widow this year, after almost 70 years of marriage.<p>She talked daily about how she finds it hard to eat, or make food, for one. Our solution now is that she visits other family members for dinner instead, and that helps at least for dinner time.
_448over 2 years ago
After my dad passed away, my mom returned home, where they had stayed for more than a decade. My sister called my mom that evening during dinner time to enquire how she was doing and whether she had her dinner. My mom said, &quot;I am cooking, and I feel that he(i.e. my dad) is sitting at the dinner table wait to be served dinner. Even during lunch I felt his presence. I am not alone.&quot;<p>My sister just hung up the phone and drove along with her husband to pick up my mom and bring her back with them. My mom is staying with them ever since.
david38over 2 years ago
One of the things I did with my family was disbanding the shared dinner.<p>I’ll make food, anyone can make their own food, and eat whenever. I do restrict unhealthy food for the kids. It’s not a total free for all.<p>By separating food and socializing, I hope to reduce their risk of obesity, which is not uncommon in my family. So far so good.
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ElijahLynnover 2 years ago
related: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.diamondapproach.org&#x2F;public-page&#x2F;theory-holes" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.diamondapproach.org&#x2F;public-page&#x2F;theory-holes</a><p>=========================== The Theory of Holes ===========================<p>The Theory of Holes is a fundamental idea used in the Diamond Approach. Under usual circumstances, people are full of what we call “holes,” which refer to any parts of you that have been lost, meaning any parts of you that you have lost consciousness of.<p>Ultimately what we have lost awareness of is our essence or pure Being—who we truly are. When we are not aware of our essence, it stops manifesting. Then we feel a sense of deficiency. So a hole is nothing but the absence of a certain part of our essence. It could be the loss of love, loss of value, loss of capacity for contact, loss of strength, any of the qualities of Essence. However, to say we have lost parts of Essence does not mean they are gone forever. You are simply cut off from consciousness of them.<p>Let’s take, for example, the quality of value or self-esteem. When you are cut off from your value, the actual experience is a sense that there is a hole inside that feels empty. You feel a sense of deficiency, a sense of inferiority, and you want to fill this hole with value from the outside. You may try to use approval, praise, whatever. You try to fill the hole with acquired value.<p>We walk around with lots of holes, but we usually aren’t aware of them. We’re usually aware of desires: “I want praise. I want to be successful. I want this person to love me. I want this or that experience.” The presence of desires and needs indicates the presence of holes.<p>These holes originated during childhood, partly as a result of traumatic experiences or conflicts with the environment. Perhaps your parents did not value you. They didn’t treat you as if your wishes or presence were important, or act in ways that let you know that you mattered. They ignored your essential value. Because your value was not seen or acknowledged, you got cut off from that part of you; what was left was a hole.<p>When you relate to someone in a deep way, you fill your holes with the other person. Some of your holes get filled with what you believe you’re getting from the other person. For example, you may feel valued because this person appreciates you. You don’t know consciously that you’re filling the hole with their appreciation. But when you are with that person, you feel valuable, and unconsciously you feel the other person is responsible for your value. Whatever this person is giving you feels like a part of you; it is part of the fullness that you experience. Except that the value you now feel is dependent on the presence of the other person.<p>Your unconscious does not see as separate that part of the person that makes you feel valuable; you see it as part of you. When the person dies or the relationship ends, you don’t feel that you’re losing that person; you feel you’re losing whatever is filling the hole. You experience the loss of a part of yourself. It feels like you’re being cut and something is being taken out of you. You may feel as if you lost your heart, your security, your strength, your will—whatever the person fulfilled for you. When you lose a person close to you, you feel whatever hole that person has filled.<p>It is rare that another person fills all your holes. You have many people and activities in your life, and still, they don’t fill all your holes. There will be some holes left, and this keeps the dissatisfaction going.<p>Our society is set up to teach us that we should get the outside to fill our holes; we should get value, love, strength, and so on from outside. We talk about how wonderful it is to do things for other people, or to fall in love, or have a meaningful profession, as if these activities are what give life meaning. We attribute the meaning to the person or thing we think is responsible for it rather than to Essence, which is really responsible.<p>People try to fill holes in different ways. A woman may think, “Oh, so that’s what I’m doing with my husband! I’m trying to use him to fill my holes. Okay, now I won’t talk to him for the next two weeks.” She is trying to fill her holes by blaming her husband for filling them in the past. It is very clever how we try to fill our holes.<p>It takes a long time for people to understand that trying to fill holes doesn’t work. It is Essence, and only Essence, that can eliminate holes—deficiencies—and it does so from the inside.
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pengaruover 2 years ago
This is just another negative to not diversifying your happiness sources and friend circles.<p>When literally the only shared activity you engage in is eating at the same table with few other people, and that activity is also the only thing you do that brings pleasure, you&#x27;re completely destroyed when it&#x27;s disrupted.<p>It&#x27;s such a lazy, low-effort existence. Invest more effort and time in <i>doing</i> <i>fun</i> <i>stuff</i>, go camping, hiking, cycling, sailing, running, climbing... find good active friends who do diverse fun things where eating is an inconvenience because there&#x27;s so much better things to do and you&#x27;re no longer addicted to shoving comforting things in your mouth, go take some effing risks.<p>Don&#x27;t be surprised when you don&#x27;t bother and what pittances of pleasure sources you had vanish and you&#x27;re up shit&#x27;s creek without a paddle, and probably don&#x27;t even have your health because you&#x27;ve been pleasure eating for decades while likely living an otherwise sedentary boring ass life.
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