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U.S. government to backstop mortgages above $1M

102 pointsby wallflowerover 2 years ago

16 comments

metadatover 2 years ago
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obblekkover 2 years ago
The current limit is 10 houses per owner... there&#x27;s absolutely no reason the gov should be subsidizing real estate investors like that.<p>This should really just be limited to 1 (or maybe 2) houses per owner at one time.<p>That would create a subsidy for people to own their house (middle class rent control), allow people to move from one to another, and stop wasting tax money on subsidizing investors.
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kart23over 2 years ago
ya know how practically unlimited student loans made it so colleges could charge much higher prices? the same thing is happening with home prices. government, through the treasuries massive holdings of mortgage-backed securities, is subsidizing the real estate market, keeping homes unaffordable for recent generations. the fed purchased more MBS during covid for ‘price support’. literally keeping home prices high instead of letting them naturally fall. our housing market is going to be fucked until the fed decides to actually start selling off the MBS. and senators try to tell you that your rent is actually high because of ‘greedy landlords’.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2022-09-22&#x2F;mortgage-investors-jump-in-after-fed-says-mbs-sales-aren-t-near" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2022-09-22&#x2F;mortgage-...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fred.stlouisfed.org&#x2F;series&#x2F;WSHOMCB" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fred.stlouisfed.org&#x2F;series&#x2F;WSHOMCB</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.richmondfed.org&#x2F;publications&#x2F;research&#x2F;economic_brief&#x2F;2020&#x2F;eb_20-08" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.richmondfed.org&#x2F;publications&#x2F;research&#x2F;economic_b...</a><p>&gt; Over a longer term, increased mortgage credit supply may push up house price inflation and make housing less affordable.
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engineer_22over 2 years ago
-&gt; The maximum size of home-mortgage loans eligible for backing by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will rise to $1,089,300 next year in high-cost markets, such as parts of California and New York, from $970,800 this year, the Federal Housing Finance Agency said Tuesday.<p>-&gt; For most parts of the country, loan limits will rise to $726,200 from a 2022 maximum of $647,200, said FHFA, which oversees mortgage-finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. By law, loan limits are calculated annually using a formula that factors in average housing prices.<p>So, this isn&#x27;t a large increase from year previous
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bottlepalmover 2 years ago
Just like health care and tuition costs, government backed insurance and loans are the root cause for prices spiraling out of control.<p>&quot;The mortgage finance market has leaned heavily on government support over the past few years. More than 90 percent of mortgages originated in 2011 were securitized by government entities using taxpayer funds to guarantee investors against default risk. This support cannot continue forever. The status quo perpetuates many of the policies that contributed to the housing bubble and consequently promotes an unstable mortgage market. In order to avoid another crisis, the government must exit mortgage finance and private capital must shoulder mortgage default risk. &quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reason.org&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;files&#x2F;study_restoring_trust_in_mbs_final.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;reason.org&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;files&#x2F;study_restoring_...</a>
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nostromoover 2 years ago
Absurd. They need to freeze their max mortgage and keep it there for the foreseeable future to stop endless price inflation.<p>And maybe the Fed could start selling some of their almost 3T in mortgages while they’re at it.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fred.stlouisfed.org&#x2F;series&#x2F;WSHOMCB" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fred.stlouisfed.org&#x2F;series&#x2F;WSHOMCB</a>
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neilvover 2 years ago
&gt; <i>Mortgage bankers and real-estate agents say the new limits are needed to reflect higher home prices.</i><p>Before we do this, how about we outlaw non-resident ownership of 1-3-family homes? Won&#x27;t that mean prices will go&#x2F;slow down, and more people will be able to afford to be homeowners? Without the government stuffing more taxpayer money into the pockets of bankers and Realtors.
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fshbbdssbbgddover 2 years ago
This statement from the article matches my experience:<p>&gt;How­ever, for much of the post­cri­sis pe­riod, jumbo loans have been priced bet­ter than con­form­ing loans partly be­cause banks see them as valu­able for at­tract­ing wealthy cus­tomers who they can do other busi­ness with, in­dus­try of­fi­cials say.<p>My mortgage is in the ballpark where I could choose whether to get a conforming or jumbo loan. Whenever I’ve shopped for a mortgage, I never was offered a lower rate for a conforming loan. In other words, private funders are willing to finance mortgages more cheaply than the government-backed agencies. For that reason, some of the language in the article criticizing the change doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, eg:<p>&gt;Crit­ics of Fan­nie and Fred­die’s large role say bor­row­ers who can af­ford mil­lion-dol­lar mort­gages should be able to fi­nance a home with­out gov­ern­ment-backed fi­nanc­ing.<p>This rule change is presumably meaningful to bond traders because it will change the characteristics of bonds that come on the market and who can buy them. Maybe that has some downstream effect on the interest rates offered to consumers?
teklaover 2 years ago
&gt; Those limits are expected to jump to a baseline level of about $650,000 in most jurisdictions and to just under $1 million in high-cost markets.<p>&gt; adding that some of his clients are unable to qualify for loans for modest-sized homes under the current limits.<p>Being unable to qualify for a loan on a $650,000-$970,800 limit makes me think you can&#x27;t afford to live in that area, whatever &quot;modest&quot; size means.
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sitkackover 2 years ago
To the moon baby! Because house prices weren&#x27;t high enough already.
xhrpostover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m struggling to find a definition of what &quot;backing mortgages by the government&quot; means in practice? Does it mean private entities who buy the mortgage always get paid? If someone stops paying their mortgage, they get to keep their house?
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anarticleover 2 years ago
Bit strange to put &quot;affordability&quot; and &quot;$1M&quot; in the same breath from a real estate agent, but here we are.
shostackover 2 years ago
What is the expected end impact to home owners in markets where jumbo mortgages are the norm, like the Bay Area?
Fatninoover 2 years ago
There&#x27;s a 1000sqft home on my street asking for $2.5m<p>How does $1m help?
additallover 2 years ago
Mo&#x27; free lunch paid by &quot;somebody else&quot;! Let&#x27;s fight inflation together! ;)
warbler73over 2 years ago
It is good to bail out the ultra rich! Because when has the US done differently!