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Being fatter than Homer Simpson

189 pointsby memorableover 2 years ago

35 comments

vgatherpsover 2 years ago
I had been somewhat overweight in the past, but not so heavy. Definitely emphasise with people here noting how it snuck up on them.<p>Something that really was game changing for me was logging everything I ate with relatively legitimate counts of the calories and macros. Before even getting towards goals I realised that those random handfuls of cashews I might grab from the kitchen on the way to the restroom weren&#x27;t say 60-100 calories, but more like 400!!! Fruit and especially fruit juices are another secret killer. There was just instant change in my calorie intake because so many things I was eating were much denser than I expected.<p>Now, many of these counters aren&#x27;t perfect, all people are different, and you don&#x27;t absorb at consistent rates across food. Don&#x27;t try and optimise down to 10s or even say order of magnitude 100 calories. But you might find some massive surprises in your food intake this way.<p>I also did the whole diet &#x2F; macro planning. Alongside going out of my way to log all food intake, having the plan added enough mental barriers to get snacking under control. Not everybody has success with these plans, but I&#x27;d still recommend the tracking and logging just to see if there&#x27;s any surprises.<p>edit: You don&#x27;t even have to keep the tracking up. Just do it for a a few weeks so you at least know. I don&#x27;t really track calories anymore but it&#x27;s largely since i have a much better idea of what I&#x27;m eating after tracking in the past.<p>edit 2: If you take care to track your macros, you can observe pretty significant differences in strength training results.
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andrelaszloover 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing. I often have the feeling that something that, to me, seems like a complex of issues around emotional regulation, impulse control, sensation seeking, etc is seen by most people as something much simpler.<p>&quot;It&#x27;s simple math, calories consumed versus calories burned&quot;, and the solutions are correspondingly simplistic. Eat less, work out more, or both.<p>To me, it&#x27;s like saying that poverty can be solved by people either working more or spending less. Well, perhaps, but it&#x27;s not the core of the issue.<p>The widespread lack of empathy for people in the high BMI ranges freaks me out. The absolute majority of people WANTS to be healthy, happy and safe.<p>This post really did a great job breaking through the stigma and humanizing this condition.
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saw-lauover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m around 310 lbs (a smidge over 22 stone for UK people). Like yourself, I always thought when I was younger &#x27;how do people let themselves get that way?&#x27;.<p>It just kind of <i>happened</i> for me. I know I eat unhealthy food; I know I drink too much; I know I don&#x27;t do enough (as in, any) exercise... I look at my face in the mirror and think &#x27;that&#x27;s not too bad!&#x27; but then catch my side profile at some point and think &#x27;eek!&#x27;.<p>It&#x27;s all a bit miserable, really. :-(<p>You should be <i>so</i> proud of yourself for your weight loss!!! I really hope things continue on the right path for you.
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imknewhereover 2 years ago
So I&#x27;ve never struggled with my weight. I&#x27;m the same weight now in my mid-40s that I was in my early 20s. I don&#x27;t understand why, honestly. I don&#x27;t really have much in the way of self control. I like junk food and alcohol just as much as the next person. But for some reason, weight is just not an issue for me. It&#x27;s like my body just self-regulates. Lots of times I just don&#x27;t feel hungry. It&#x27;s weird.<p>Just as I cannot explain why I am the way I am, it would be stupid to expect everybody to be the same as me. To look at an overweight person and assume they have no self-discipline. Or the opposite for a thin person. I don&#x27;t see myself as any different from a fat person. I just somehow don&#x27;t happen to be fat.<p>One problem that I do suffer from is anxiety and depression. In relating my experiences to others, I get the same sort of &quot;helpful&quot; suggestions. Go outside more. Exercise more. Meditate more. Drink more water. Eat healthier. I can only imagine what my life would feel like, if my mental health were on display the way weight is for fat people. The feeling that even though you&#x27;re trying so hard, you&#x27;re obviously not trying hard enough. Everyone giving unsolicited advice - I imagine the advice from former fat people is the worst.<p>At least with mental health issues, I can hide those, or not discuss them with &quot;helpful&quot; people. I have the greatest amount of compassion for fat people. People are so thoughtless and hurtful. Even when they&#x27;re trying to help.
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nickybearblogover 2 years ago
I know it&#x27;s an overused line, but this kinda blew up overnight! I did not expect to wake up to over 1k visitors. Really appreciate you all reading and commenting. I&#x27;ve only recently started, but I&#x27;m going to be posting more of the same every Sunday, talking about mental health, physical health, and stuff I&#x27;ve learned along the way. If you like this and want more, you can subscribe to my mailing list here - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nicky.bearblog.dev&#x2F;subscribe&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nicky.bearblog.dev&#x2F;subscribe&#x2F;</a> I&#x27;ll be sending out an extra post by email every Wednesday. Have a great day!
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nirimdaover 2 years ago
For metric folk, Homer Simpson gains 34 kg from his normal weight of 109 kg to 143 kg. The author of the blogpost also reached that peak, but is down now to about 120 kg.
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kerrsclydeover 2 years ago
I was very overweight until my late 30&#x27;s, something clicked and I lost the weight and almost 10 years later I am lighter than I have ever been during my adult life.<p>I have found that it is possible to change.<p>Becoming lighter has encouraged me to exercise but what I eat has always been the main factor in what I weigh.
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afroisalreadyinover 2 years ago
There was a time when I got used to eating a big plate of fries with my normal lunch (the student canteen at the university where I studied was just phenomenal), and after a couple of months, I had put on considerable weight. The problem was, I was thin my whole life, and I just couldn&#x27;t imagine being overweight, so I didn&#x27;t ever get on a scale, and had no idea how much I had put on. It was my mother telling me &quot;my son, you&#x27;ve become properly fat&quot; that made me realize that something significant had changed. The scale was now showing 90 kg, closer to 100 than my to my normal weight. After a couple of months of eating properly and running, everything was back to normal, but that was a stark reminder of how anyone can become obese given the right (or rather wrong) conditions.
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derelictaover 2 years ago
I wish there were far less stigma revolving around asking for help regarding nutrition. I feel its like going to the psychologist; its somewhat seen as shameful and a proof you&#x27;ve &quot;given up&quot;, where its imo totally the contrary.<p>In my case I think I&#x27;d still be flirting with obesity had I not begged to see a specialist.
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devalerover 2 years ago
Good luck with the mirtazapine taper, and I mean that with all sincerity. I recently finished mine, and it’s been fascinating to watch the weight drop along with it. I’m glad that mirtazapine helps some people, but for me it was a poison that shocked my central nervous system with brutal discontinuation symptoms.
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sersheover 2 years ago
I went on a somewhat difficult conditioning hike (4000ft elevation gain) long time ago with a group of random people. Usually people tend to have poles, bring food, and look like hikers, etc on these kind of trips, but one guy shows up in jeans, sneakers, and half liter bottle of water for sustenance. My first thought was, &quot;great, we have an unprepared noob, this will take twice as long&quot;, but the guy is super fast. Turns out he used to weigh a lot (I don&#x27;t remember exactly, but I think &gt;300lb), and now that he lost the weight a hike like this is super easy for him, it&#x27;s like he used to do it with a barbell before ;)
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AnIdiotOnTheNetover 2 years ago
I once weighed somewhere north of 320lbs (145kg), and eventually starved myself down to about 165lb (75kg) and kept it within 15lbs (7kg) of there for many years until COVID happened.<p>I say this so you understand that I believe I speak from a place of authority when it comes to struggling with and losing weight.<p>I think it is impossible for anyone who spent their life not having to pay attention to what they ate to maintain a &quot;normal&quot; BMI to understand precisely what it is like to not be that way. They look down on people like me because they think I must have gone out of my way to eat so much, when the truth is that I experience food in a completely different way from them. It&#x27;s like I don&#x27;t have an &quot;off&quot; signal for my compulsion to eat. I have to constantly pay attention to what I&#x27;m eating and try to ignore my hunger and non-hunger eating compulsion. Constantly. As in <i>all the fucking time</i>. It frequently makes me wish I were dead rather than have to put up with it.<p>Frankly, I kinda hate people who don&#x27;t struggle with this. Partially that&#x27;s because those are the kind of people who made me feel like shit my entire life for being the way I am, and partially it is for making it look so easy that it trivializes my constant war with my own fucking body, but mostly I think it is envy. I have said many times, and I&#x27;m not sure it was entirely exaggeration, that would kill and eat such a person if I thought it might grant me their power to simply stop eating when they&#x27;ve had enough calories.<p>I can tell you from experience that doctors and nutritionists don&#x27;t know shit about this. And neither do you, random Hacker News about to promote a keto diet or intermittent fasting. Any diet will work for about 10lbs, I had to lose 15x that. There is a lot of bullshit science done on behalf of people selling food, selling diets, etc. making it pretty much impossible to separate useful information from marketing.<p>I wish I could offer an answer. I have spent the past 15 years or so of my life constantly looking for one, to no avail. The best I&#x27;ve managed is that if I can put myself in a sufficiently manic state I no longer seem to have an appetite, but that&#x27;s hardly viable.
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trashfaceover 2 years ago
One trick that might help people is reducing&#x2F;eliminating seed oils. Safflower, soybean, sunflower oil. They put that in everything nowadays, and it adds a lot of extra calories. Its amazing to pick up stuff in the grocery story and look at the ingredients to see where they randomly show up. Restaurants also use them a lot as a cooking oil, cheaper than butter much of the time.<p>They might also trigger inflammatory disorders but I&#x27;m less convinced of that. I eliminated them and lost tons of weight, though I had a pretty restrictive diet and was exercising a lot too so its hard to untangle the effects.
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tonguetrainerover 2 years ago
A refreshingly honest read Nicky (and yes, I&#x27;m trying to lose weight too).<p>Just remember that a person&#x27;s worth with God doesn&#x27;t depend on how good looking, thin or tall they are. He doesn&#x27;t see as humans see, but looks into the heart instead (1 Samuel 16:7). There are people on HN that need to know this.<p>Good luck with your weight loss!
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ultracakebakeryover 2 years ago
So, you lost around 2kg of weight every month? That is very impressive considering the weight and size you&#x27;re started out from! Most people aim for less than that and don&#x27;t even lose the 0.5kg of water weight. Great job, keep it up man!
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dutchCourageover 2 years ago
This isn&#x27;t weight loss advice but I&#x27;ve been eating unhealthy for most of my 20s. I felt alright for the most part with some very occasional stomach ache or acid reflux if I didn&#x27;t sleep enough.<p>In the past couple of years I put some effort in learning how to cook. Nothing fancy, just following simple recipes and some occasional Hello Fresh boxes. At first, 30min recipes were taking me an hour to make and it was a hassle. Now I&#x27;m at a point where I can cook a lot of things without having to focus on it and can improvise some dishes with what&#x27;s left in my fridge.<p>The benefits have been huge. I&#x27;m eating a lot healthier, spending way less on takeaway and feeling generally lighter and a lot less bloated. I&#x27;m sleeping better and have less of a post lunch energy dip.<p>I can&#x27;t recommend it enough. Even cooking twice a week can already be 4 healthy meals if you make two portions each time.
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hardlianotionover 2 years ago
Great to read your account. Impressed by your achievement so far with such a constraint, and your second footnote actually made me laugh - life is a cosmic joke sometimes. I hope the feedback you get hear spurs you through the winter months. You write well, so I will definitely follow your story.
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pryelluwover 2 years ago
Friendly post to those who might need it. There are support groups out there for people with eating disorders. One is Compulsive Eaters Anonymous [0]. Try it out.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ceahow.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ceahow.org&#x2F;</a>
rowilliaover 2 years ago
Congratulations! It&#x27;s a really fucking hard thing to do and you should be very proud of yourself! After a large shift in body composition I really recommend getting some blood work - especially to check testosterone levels. I lost a bunch of weight and everything looked better for me, except my T levels had cratered which made me feel overall lethargic. Since then I&#x27;ve been focused more on maintenance to try to get them to come back up.<p>I recently went through a similar journey - I&#x27;ve lost ~80 lbs since March of 2022 and am now focused on maintaining (Before&#x2F;After: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.instagram.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;CjG4AmDvG2w&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.instagram.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;CjG4AmDvG2w&#x2F;</a> - still technically obese though). I was a college athlete and really struggled after college with &quot;working out&quot;. I never &quot;worked out&quot;, I always &quot;trained&quot;. I couldn&#x27;t bring myself to go to the gym for a couple hours a day without something to work towards. At one point I got super into CrossFit but all that went out the window when I had my first kid. I wish I could say I found balance, but getting super into Jiu Jitsu has been the latest thing to get me to drop weight.<p>Honestly I find maintaining harder than losing. When I was focused on losing weight I would just think &quot;If I&#x27;m a little bit hungry I&#x27;m OK&quot;, but now focusing on maintenance I had to be much more diligent about tracking calories&#x2F;macros.
FriedrichNover 2 years ago
I have a tendency to be heavier rather than lighter, for me exercise absolutely helps, how much I eat with moderate exercise is about the same as without. Once I go above the moderate range I start being more hungry and only applies to cardiovascular conditioning, weight training does not have that effect on me.<p>The problem with losing weight can&#x27;t be reduced to calories in versus calories out, that&#x27;s the outcome, not the method. What you need to control is hunger, which can be very difficult for one person and very easy for another. Hormones play a huge role in this (ghrelin and leptin are big players) and that differs from person to person. Combine that with the fact that certain people unconsciously dial down their energy expenditure (fidgeting, bouncing, posture, etc.) when they reduce their calorie intake.<p>You can do a lot with conscious decisions like getting your step count up, doing regular cardio, eating more things that fill you up like vegetables, fruit, potatoes, anything high in fibre. But that only gets you so far until you hit that certain point at which it becomes too hard and that point is different for every person. If you have a tendency to be overweight, you&#x27;ll never walk around with a permanent sixpack. It&#x27;s better to weigh 100kg than to weigh 120kg even if it would be better to weigh 80kg, there&#x27;s no point in losing a lot of weight if you can&#x27;t maintain it.
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not1ofUover 2 years ago
I cant find the blog post now (its probably 20ish years old now), from the creator of AutoCAD (John Walker, I beleive). Where he details all the issues he had with various diets and weight loss plans. Finally he looked at the issue from a engineers point of view, and eventually came up with a solution that worked for him. I am under-weight all my life, so I cannot speak to the method myself, but he seemed quite logical to me. He more or less stated that the human body could be considered like a rubber bag with a hole in each end and that if the calorie in number exceeded the calorie out number then weight goes up, with the added complication of water retention (as far as I know, most programs recommend that you weight yourself at the same time every day so as to get a more accurate reading, due to water retention), and as such devloped an excel sheet which would show a rolling average of weight (like the way they guess the weather or some stocks). This he found, helped with motivation, instead of seeing big swings from day to day, a steady small reduction is seen via the charts instead.<p>I tried to google the blog, but couldnt find it, however it appears that he has released books and other such materials relating to it since then.<p>This isnt the post I read, however, it looks like some of the tools he created exist here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fourmilab.ch&#x2F;hackdiet&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fourmilab.ch&#x2F;hackdiet&#x2F;</a><p>Note, as stated above, my struggle with weight is gaining, not loosing, so I have not delved into this stuff on a deeper level, however, what drew me into the original post, was the amount of research he did in relation to how much calories various activities will burn.
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andrewlaover 2 years ago
There are a lot of important ongoing developments in obesity research. At the core, diet (mostly) and exercise (somewhat) are voluntary steps that you can take that will mechanically, thermodynamically, guarantee that you lose weight.<p>But being overweight by itself is bad, and there&#x27;s more and more research ongoing on how to fix that specific problem, without fixing the underlying causes that stop people from making the kind of lifestyle changes that will result in a healthy weight.<p>Matthew Yglesias has a writeup of his own experiences [1] and his research into the state of the art of obesity research. If you have been trying and failing to lose weight, you don&#x27;t have to beat yourself up about your failed attempts. Well, you can beat yourself up, it&#x27;s a free country, but also consider looking into solutions that take your willpower out of the equation.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.grid.news&#x2F;story&#x2F;science&#x2F;2022&#x2F;09&#x2F;14&#x2F;why-arent-medical-breakthroughs-in-obesity-a-bigger-deal&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.grid.news&#x2F;story&#x2F;science&#x2F;2022&#x2F;09&#x2F;14&#x2F;why-arent-med...</a>
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nomy99over 2 years ago
I got rid of carbs including whole grains and dropped 40 pounds in 3 months. A lot of protein + salads and fruits. I had a lot of diet soda as well :&#x2F;
dncornholioover 2 years ago
Myself, I have always weight the same (80kg) for as long as I can remember. Sometimes I eat super healthy, sometimes I don&#x27;t. Sometimes I eat really shitty and a lot. My weight always stays the same. I also eat complete packages sometimes.<p>Because of this I never judge fat people. Always wondered if lots of obese people are just a victim of society or their own metabolism.
staccatomeasureover 2 years ago
This comment section is a great reminder about how crazy it is we have so many different global weight units of measure.
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elenaferrantesover 2 years ago
&quot;I will be a health(ier) weight, if I continue to put the effort in. And who knows?&quot; Fit and normal people don’t put any effort. As long as you’ll see this as an effort&#x2F;reward thing you will fail. My advice : focus on eating normally every day. 3 meals &#x2F; day. Don’t focus on long term goals.
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bitLover 2 years ago
It&#x27;s fairly easy to lose weight by not eating anything for a few weeks (only first 1-3 days are tougher) though one risks developing vitamin &amp; electrolyte deficiency that resembles effects of a major viral infection. Another way is to do HIIT but doing that properly is out of reach for most overweight people.
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rcarrover 2 years ago
Obviously, there are a lot of complex reasons why someone ends up overweight. I would just like to share a few hacks for anyone struggling with this issue that they may not be aware of:<p>- Try rucking. This is the name for walking with weight in a backpack. You may hear it referred to as &#x27;tabbing&#x27; in the UK. You will burn almost as much calories as jogging but without the strain on your knees and it doesn&#x27;t suck half as much. You can get dedicated rucksacks and weight plates for it or you can just sling some bricks or sandbags in a regular backpack. Try and get one with well padded straps. If you have a dog, just stick the backpack on whilst you are taking it for a walk and you are now essentially, in terms of calories burned, doing a run every day.<p>- Try meal shakes. There are quite a few of these available now. Huel is probably the most globally available. The problem with the whole philosophy of &#x27;just track your macros and run a calorie deficit&#x27; is that it takes a lot of work. If you are overweight, you are likely already feeling tired and worn out. Adding on exercise AND meal prep AND calorie tracking on top is a pretty big jump. It is far easier to buy a meal replacement shake, have it for breakfast and lunch and then be relatively relaxed about what you have for dinner.<p>- Rather than tracking ALL the food you eat which is time consuming, boring and can lead to an unhealthy obsessive mindset in some individuals, try tracking just the junk food. Then aim to reduce it each week until you get to a reasonable level. If you ate 20 bad things this week, aim for 19 next week. Personally, I wouldn&#x27;t aim for this to ever be zero. Moderation in all things.<p>- Lift weights a few times a week. The more muscle mass you have the more calories you&#x27;ll burn without having to do any work. Find a plan with an app and stick to it.<p>- Reduce your risk of injury. If you injure yourself, you lose all momentum and end up back at square one. If you&#x27;re overweight you&#x27;re already at higher risk of injuring yourself so you have to train smart. If you keep doing the same exercise every day, you increase the chances of injuring yourself. So if you run on Monday, cycle on Tuesday. Utilise low impact cardio. Find the two or three options you like most from the following list and keep rotating: row, ruck, swim, cycle, ski-erg, roller blading, elliptical, stepper, aqua jogging. Try to stretch every day for at least 15 minutes.<p>- If you&#x27;ve got the time, do lots of zone 2. If you have a heart rate tracker, you can separate heart rate into zones. Zone 2 is where you can go for hours on end. You will hear a lot at the minute about how HIIT &#x27;can burn as much calories as endurance training&#x27;. I&#x27;m sorry, but it&#x27;s bullshit. I&#x27;ve seen plenty of people doing Crossfit consistently for a couple of years that are still carrying extra body fat. It is unlikely you will see someone who has been at a local triathlon or cycling club for the same period of time carrying that weight. No matter how hard you exercise, if you&#x27;re only doing it for 20 minutes a day you will not burn as many calories as someone doing cardio for 2 hours a day, 6 days a week. And if you are exercising for a couple of hours a day it is very hard to eat enough calories to stay fat.<p>- Reduce friction for desired behaviours, increase friction for undesired behaviours. Junk food lives on the top shelf at the back of the cupboard where it&#x27;s harder to reach. Pack your gym bag the night before so all you have to do is grab it and go in the morning. Make your protein shake the night before etc.<p>- Attach a negative emotional response to food you don&#x27;t want to eat. This one may be more controversial but I remember reading it in a Tony Robbins book and it does make sense. If you can&#x27;t stop eating chocolate, eat nothing but chocolate for the next 2 or 3 days. Literally nothing else. You will start to feel sick of it and attach a physical repulsion to it which will lesson your chances of wanting to eat it in the future the same way you probably have an alcoholic drink you can&#x27;t stand anymore if you threw up after having it when you were first trying out drinking. You can do the same the other way and attach a positive emotion for foods you don&#x27;t like but are healthy. Prepare whatever it is in advance then go without food until you are absolutely ravenous and then eat it. If you only drink fizzy drinks and don&#x27;t like plain water, stay in a steam room or sauna until you feel uncomfortable and make sure you have a bottle of cold water outside waiting for you. You may have to repeat it a few times when you&#x27;re trying to build a positive association. You probably won&#x27;t with the negative associations.<p>- Most of all, find something you enjoy. If you don&#x27;t enjoy it, you&#x27;re not going to stick with it in the long term.
ivvveover 2 years ago
Keep it up! Absolutely smashing it so far mate.
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coreyp_1over 2 years ago
This comment will probably get buried, but I&#x27;m putting it here anyway.<p>I&#x27;ve always been fat. My entire life. I joke that when I was born, my mother gave birth to a toddler. I&#x27;ve never known what it&#x27;s like to be skinny, thin, fit, or whatever word you want to use. I wish I did, though.<p>I&#x27;m sick of being told how to be healthy by people who have never been fat. Or, even worse, people who have been fit when younger, then put on weight for a few years only to go back to being fit. They have the delusion that their experience is possible for everyone and therefore the fat person is just lazy or lacks self control, and therefore make a moral judgement about the fatso. I cannot stand that type of person.<p>All of the &quot;Just do this...&quot; quips don&#x27;t help.<p>&quot;Just cut back on the alcohol.&quot; I have never drank in my life. Ever.<p>&quot;Just cut back on the sugary drinks.&quot; I cut out sodas 3 years ago. I&#x27;m heavier now than I was 3 years ago. Since then, I only drink water at restaurants, and I only drink water or 0 calorie flavored water at home. No exceptions.<p>&quot;Just exercise and you&#x27;ll feel better.&quot; I have never felt good exercising. Never. Exercising makes me miserable. I don&#x27;t mean just while I&#x27;m exercising, but I mean that I feel incessantly exhausted during the times in my life when I did exercise regularly. In my 20&#x27;s I did Tae Kwon Do consistently for several years. I jogged. I rode my bike. I was consistently miserable. And I was still fat.<p>&quot;Stop eating out.&quot; I did that with my switch to keto (mentioned below). Not a huge change. It&#x27;s more expensive to cook &quot;good&quot; food than to eat the McDonald&#x27;s dollar menu, but I guess I make more $$$ now than I did when I was a poor student.<p>&quot;It&#x27;s just calories in and calories out.&quot; Yeah, and programming is just ones and zeroes. It&#x27;s not technically wrong, and yet it&#x27;s obvious that the person doesn&#x27;t know what they&#x27;re talking about beyond this rudimentary quip. They don&#x27;t understand how the gut microbiome can make absorption of nutrients&#x2F;calories more efficient, or genetic predisposition and the relative strength of those predispositions, or any other nuance. It&#x27;s like talking to a racist or woke person; neither one sees how their naive and myopic understanding of the world doesn&#x27;t actually match reality, but they are proud to spout their nonsense and then judge you for not meeting their standard.<p>My blood sugar has never been caught &quot;high&quot; so I had never worried about it much, but in an annual insurance checkup, my A1C was 10.6. That&#x27;s bad. The insurance person tried to make me go to the ER right at that moment. They were REALLY pushy. I thought that they were overreacting. They were not happy that I didn&#x27;t panic or react in the same way that they were acting. I didn&#x27;t go to a doctor. I switched to a keto diet. It&#x27;s been 4 months, and I&#x27;ve only lost 20 lbs. My A1C is down to 6, though, when I checked it a few days ago. No meds.<p>I want to exercise, but I absolutely hate my life when I do it. I have a bad knee, so it&#x27;s often painful to exercise. Exercise makes me feel bad in general.<p>I&#x27;m currently 6&#x27;0&quot; and 269lbs. The only time I guess that I&#x27;ll actually be skinny is about 10 years after I&#x27;m dead.
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sparriganover 2 years ago
You got this! So great to hear about your impressive progress.
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weightthrowawayover 2 years ago
Using a throwaway for the obvious sensitivity. I&#x27;ve struggled with my weight all through adulthood - in my 20s I gained weight just from business travel, stress, eating out all the time, and drinking a lot. This continued through my 30s until around 2018, my wife sat me down and explained that my poor diet and not taking care of myself was stressing her out, especially since my father had died young of heart problems.<p>At the time, I was 290 pounds, which alone stressed me out - I remember having the same realization as the writer of this piece and feeling dejected.<p>So, I gritted my teeth, started seeing a trainer and hired a nutritionist. The nutrionist was useless, I assume I just had the wrong person, but that didn&#x27;t help. Exercise and cutting back on drinking dropped 10 pounds, cutting out breakfast and switching to lighter lunches cut another 10.<p>After that, though, it got really hard. I had long ago gotten rid of the &quot;easy&quot; adjustments - I never liked sugary soda, never was a big snacker, don&#x27;t like fruit, and didn&#x27;t have a big sweet tooth. By cutting out booze entirely and going down to one meal a day I was able to grind out another 5 pounds over a span of months, but it was real work. I tried tracking my macros fanatically and by all measures I should be way below my baseline amount of calories but the weight just didn&#x27;t want to come off. I stalled out at 265-ish and couldn&#x27;t get lower.<p>The next level of commitment would have been to do keto or one of the other very low-carb diets combined with one meal a day, but I was already pretty miserable. When covid hit, I backslid, but eventually got back on track, but same problem - I can grind it out to 265, but couldn&#x27;t get below it. I did find that I could maintain at around 270 and still enjoy a decent quality of life.<p>So I stuck there for a year or two, still felt gross, but less gross than I did previously. I got my blood work done earlier this year, and my a1c showed I was pre-diabetic, which I took hard - it felt like I&#x27;d done all this work and I was still losing the battle.<p>My psychiatrist suggested I look at taking Ozempic - I qualified due to my a1c, and thought it might help me lose weight as well. Started taking it about 6 months ago, and I&#x27;ve lost almost 30 pounds. The side effects suck - constipation, nausea, etc., but it&#x27;s been a game changer. My a1c and cholesterol are back in normal range, and my blood pressure is normal. I&#x27;m still losing weight, but more slowly, I don&#x27;t know when things are going to settle out.<p>All this to say, from my own struggles to lose weight, I think it&#x27;s more complicated than CICO - obviously that&#x27;s a huge part of it, but I think everyone has a baseline below which your body starts to make it increasingly difficult to go and stay beneath, and I think everyone has a different tolerance level for fighting that baseline. I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s very helpful to just tell people &quot;CICO&quot;.<p>For me, it took 1) finding a good therapist, 2) finding a good trainer, 3) taking an expensive and unpleasant medication, and 4) CICO. I&#x27;m incredibly fortunate that I have good insurance and a high-income job in a major city with lots of treatment options. I&#x27;m starting to gear myself up that I&#x27;m going to have to double down on 1, 2, and 4 to keep moving towards a healthier weight, but Ozempic has at least dialed that hunger sensor down far enough that I feel like I can make headway.
COGloryover 2 years ago
There&#x27;s lots of back and forth in the comments about calories in, calories out, nutrition, etc. I went to school to become a dietitian, so I thought I&#x27;d chime in with my worldview.<p>Losing weight <i>IS</i> as simple as calories in, calories out. A pound of fat has about 3500 calories, so you must deficit slightly more than that (glycogen stores will buffer) to lose a pound. 2nd law of thermodynamics means there&#x27;s no room for opinions here. It doesn&#x27;t matter what medications you are on, what hormones you have, what body type you are, you <i>must</i> burn more calories than you consume to lose weight.<p>Now, why are people making this distinction? Well, my best guess is that it&#x27;s because a few years ago there was a coordinated and highly visible campaign for body positivity, spearheaded by a number of models who were overweight&#x2F;obese, which kind of went off the rails and claimed that in addition to being OK with their weight, that they were medically healthy and there was no downsides to their weight. They also circulated claims about why they were that weight, a number of which were in violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics. As for obesity:health correlations? They are all bad, very bad.<p>That said, one thing body weight does <i>not</i> correlate with is self-worth. An overweight or obese person still has precisely the exact same self-worth as anyone else. This gets tricky, because many overweight people feel they <i>should</i> feel bad about their weight. In general, I don&#x27;t disagree with that. It&#x27;s your health, and you are responsible for it, so if you aren&#x27;t taking care of it, feeling bad is a natural and valid response. Again, nothing to do with self-worth. Weight is not tied to self-worth in any way. Just like smoking cigarettes or any other destructive pattern. You should stop because it&#x27;s bad. You are the only person capable of doing it - no one else can do it for you, stopping will be tricky, feeling bad about not stopping is natural and healthy, your value as a human being is independent of whether you stop or not.<p>All that said, it still leaves a glaring hole that sometimes gets misinterpreted as the root of the issue, which is that humans are complex biological systems, that, when dysfunctional, often get that calorie thing unbalanced. The game is rigged: evolution selected people who want to eat. Eating is pleasurable, mentally and physically. Food has never been this abundant, so we haven&#x27;t selected much for moderation. Hormonal and other chemical imbalances, as a result of medical conditions or stress can tip the scales unfairly toward eating. Medications can make it hard to exercise, or stimulate appetite. Time, illness, diet, can all affect this complicated balance, and make it difficult or impossible to lose weight.<p>There are certain maxims: eat healthy. Well, if I eat more healthy food than I burn, I will gain weight. But healthy food will probably lead to better hormone balance, that might supress appetite (or not increase appetite), so maybe it&#x27;s easier to eat less when you eat healthy. Another one is exercise. Exercise is good for your health, but it&#x27;s a mixed bag for losing weight. For starters, exercise, especially cardio, barely burns any calories. Secondly, exercise is associated with overeating in many people. So exercise can help with calories out, but does little to help with calories in, sometimes even making it worse.<p>It all boils down to something like.... being overweight is bad for you. Feeling bad about being overweight is a normal, healthy response and you shouldn&#x27;t lie to yourself about it. The only way to lose weight is to eat less than you burn. There is no magic bullet or way to sidestep that, so just accept it. It&#x27;s not easy to eat less than you burn, so it&#x27;s worth examining with a fine toothed comb why you might be eating too much, and there&#x27;s all sorts of little things tht make calorie restriction harder or easier. So it&#x27;s worth examining those. And regardless of where you are in that process, it has no impact on what you are worth as a person.
Psychoshy_bc1qover 2 years ago
loosing weight is easy. got from 72Kg to 61Kg while being 175cm small in about 5 months.
piterdevriesover 2 years ago
Just wondering what he finds so delicious to eat that he couldn&#x27;t stop. I find the food in UK absolutlety disgusting, fast food, desserts, breakfast, all of it.
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