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Dissonance – A Journey Through Musical Possibility Space

42 pointsby Nitroloover 2 years ago

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optimalsolverover 2 years ago
Music scientist Phillip Dorrell [0] has argued for the existence of currently hypothetical &quot;strong music,&quot; a class of musical stimuli presumably discoverable by strong AI.<p>The idea makes sense if you accept the concept of &quot;intelligence explosion.&quot; Any property, in this case the rewarding effect of acoustic stimuli in humans, can be powerfully maximized. There must exist patterns in music-space that would have profoundly greater impact on human minds than those our low-wattage brains can find. So through a really powerful search and optimization process that can more efficiently explore remote, undiscovered regions of music-space, we get a &quot;music explosion.&quot;<p>What these songs would sound like is the real mystery. Would they sound anything like the music we&#x27;re familiar with? Would they lead to musical wireheading?<p>It also seems a bad idea to measure musical goodness by, say, how many times humans will replay a certain audio file. If you use this measure, I don&#x27;t think you&#x27;ll end with what you want at all.<p>See also &quot;supernormal stimuli&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sparringmind.com&#x2F;supernormal-stimuli&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sparringmind.com&#x2F;supernormal-stimuli&#x2F;</a><p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;whatismusic.info&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;whatismusic.info&#x2F;</a>
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superpope99over 2 years ago
This is incredible! I&#x27;ve wanted to build something like this for a while.<p>I sing in a barbershop quartet with 4 engineers, and we are constantly trying to tweak our tunings to optimise consonance of the chords we&#x27;re singing. It can lead to interesting occurrences where you have to tune 2 consecutive notes differently despite the fact they are <i>on paper</i> the same note.
ryanfover 2 years ago
This is interesting but I wish it included some information about the definition of &quot;dissonance&quot; being used. Of course xenharmonic stuff sometimes sounds out of tune just because it&#x27;s unfamiliar, but also there&#x27;s a temptation to go too far the other direction and assume that something must be exploring profound new harmonic space just because it sounds bad.