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Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

225 pointsby jaboutboulover 2 years ago

16 comments

djha-skinover 2 years ago
All this time I had thought that Rocky Linux was winning the fork war over Alma (in the fight to be the successor to CentOS), but this post might change that with a good chunk of the science community throwing their weight behind Alma.<p>Do we have anyone else in the audience that has any insights over whether Alma is more prevalent over Rocky or is it the other way around?<p>I know I can run Rocky Linux from DigitalOcean which I appreciate.
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jl6over 2 years ago
I’m out of the loop on RHEL forks. Can someone explain why it is important to be binary compatible with RHEL? Is there a lot of software whose binaries will only run on RHEL? Or is this more a case of wanting something free that can still make use of RHEL-specific skills and knowledge?
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hsbauauvhabzbover 2 years ago
I would prefer to use RedHat based distros but their lack of official non free repos annoy me - I don’t want to add a community repo, I want packages maintained by trusted core engineers. Sure the community repos <i>probably</i> have that, but I last I checked I couldn’t find any assurance on the security of the community repos. SBOMs don’t mean shit if you’re installing stuff from random no-assurance locations.
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qwerty456127over 2 years ago
Obviously stability is the most important factor for the people running nuclear experiments so they choose RHEL. Nevertheless, if I were them, I would consider trying Nix or Guix to potrntially turn the configs&#x2F;builds into comparably strict math and making these reproducible.
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bayesian_horseover 2 years ago
What I didn&#x27;t like about AlmaLinux so far is that it takes more effort to google solutions to problems than for Ubuntu.<p>That may sound stupid or lazy, but there it is.
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jacooperover 2 years ago
And after all of that, dnf auto update still doesn&#x27;t support auto restarts for kernel updates, amazing.<p>Also no in-place upgrades since for ever.
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fancyfredbotover 2 years ago
What happened to scientific Linux? It&#x27;s a bit odd that it seems to be being discontinued rather than rebased on Alma? Do they no longer believe scientific Linux adds value?
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1letterunixnameover 2 years ago
I went through the Rocks Cluster cycles in 3, 4, and 5 with SLC and Scientific until those fell by the wayside.<p>Rocky is the underdog you want to win.<p>Alma is the leader except in terms of security update latency.<p>The problem is that Cent 8&#x2F;9 Stream has quicker critical CVE patches because it&#x27;s essentially the source and is closer to mirroring RHEL.<p>It&#x27;s hard to convince corporate folks to use Alma when Cent is still the &quot;safer&quot; choice technologically and provides continuity even if its governance and lifecycle maybe worse.
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HexDecOctBinover 2 years ago
&gt; reflecting recent experience<p>What happened? Is this about CentOS&#x27;s demise?
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notoranditover 2 years ago
Not really interesting. Without any technical reasoning other than &quot;we want red hat with extra perks&quot;.
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keewee7over 2 years ago
How are these long-term support Linux distros able to provide LTS for the thousands of packages they include?<p>If a security bug is discovered in an old version of RabbitMQ do the distro maintainers learn Erlang&#x2F;OTP to patch the bug?
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xorcistover 2 years ago
Alma produces a rather snazzy script to migrate from CentOS which works really well.<p>I&#x27;m told it also works with Rocky, but I haven&#x27;t tried it.
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warinukraineover 2 years ago
Not a linux expert.<p>Skimming wikipedia it seems the main selling point of both Rocky and Alma is that they&#x27;re binary-compatible with red hat, right? Could some experts clarify: if you want to be binary-compatible with red hat, why not just use red had?
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egberts1over 2 years ago
Absolutely love the integrated signing of containers (Sigstore technology).<p>If more distros support this, then our life would be far less stressful.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sigstore.dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sigstore.dev&#x2F;</a>
jeffbeeover 2 years ago
I bet these guys have a lot of unusual legacy requirements, like wanting Motif and remote X11&#x2F;Xdm to keep working, which takes Ubuntu out of the competition.
Mikhail_Kover 2 years ago
Is AlmaLinux systemd-free?
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