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There aren't enough remote jobs to go around

33 pointsby zenmacroover 2 years ago

15 comments

mike_dover 2 years ago
This is a bold claim made on a very shaky set of data. Most companies aren&#x27;t going to explicitly post jobs for remote, just because a lot of talent management platforms don&#x27;t really support it well. I think the goto is to post the job as available in every location the company has an office, and see what the applicant wants to do.<p>Of course employers want people to come back. They have millions if not billions of dollars in real estate liabilities that are effectively useless. As an aside, I wonder if there is some clever way to get a tax write off for office space that went unused due to a global pandemic - or writing off an office entirely as a loss.
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safetyboxover 2 years ago
This is like saying &quot;There aren&#x27;t enough high-paying jobs&quot;.<p>Remote is one property of a job to select for.<p>You may not value it high enough to compromise on other parameters.<p>Sure, there aren&#x27;t enough remote jobs for everyone to have one.<p>But everyone doesn&#x27;t want a remote job, just like everyone wants a high-paying job. (Sure, everyone wants money. But they want to work excessive hours, or work in a field they find questionable? Well, maybe high pay isn&#x27;t always a good trade-off either.)
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asonethover 2 years ago
If there is a mismatch then in-person offices will need to offer higher salaries and&#x2F;or lower their standards to attract in-person workers. (Or put another way, remote positions will be able to attract comparable candidates while offering lower salaries.)<p>Whether that salary difference is +10% or +90% I would expect it to show up in salary data eventually, and that might be a more accurate indication of the magnitude of the mismatch than job postings.
roland35over 2 years ago
My company is breaking big leases and even in the formerly overcrowded HQ it feels at most half full (or maybe half empty??). I don&#x27;t think most people come in 5 days a week even if they&#x27;re RTO (return to office).<p>I personally think the remote work genie is out of the bottle and it&#x27;s here to stay! Unless it&#x27;s a very collaborative phase or (big) hardware related like automotive there will be plenty of remote jobs.
DMellover 2 years ago
&gt;Indeed, as reported by The Washington Post, 50% of job applications on LinkedIn last month were for remote work positions, despite the fact that from-home postings made up just 15% of the listings on the site.<p>This doesn&#x27;t actually tell us anything nor did the source linked in the article clarify further.
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throw903290over 2 years ago
Companies may ask, but usually people quit and productivity drops.<p>For me return to office would be 60% pay cut. Good luck finding another developer :)
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up2isomorphismover 2 years ago
Remote work for a lot of people simply does not work. It is not the interaction makes progress but the intensity of interactions makes progress. And for a large number of people remote communication does not give the necessary intensity.<p>In my opinion very few jobs should be posted as remote but adjusted to remote if that does not hurt productivity.
karaterobotover 2 years ago
&gt; Indeed, as reported by The Washington Post, 50% of job applications on LinkedIn last month were for remote work positions, despite the fact that from-home postings made up just 15% of the listings on the site.<p>Another explanation could be: High-paying tech industry jobs are more likely to offer WFH, and are more competitive than low-paying service-industry jobs. There are more service industry job postings, but more people applying for each tech job posting. Thus, 15% of postings offer WFH, but 50% of applications go to WFH positions. Though true, this is not evidence for the conclusion they&#x27;re drawing.<p>Not saying this <i>is</i> the explanation, I&#x27;m saying that they&#x27;re picking out one element of a job posting and drawing conclusions from it.
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zxspectrum1982over 2 years ago
What a horrid analysis!<p>50% of applications were asking for remote work in one of the positions that offered remote work (15% of the total LinkedIn openings). That&#x27;s a 3:1 applications to jobs ratio.<p>So what!?<p>Saying &quot;there aren&#x27;t enough remote jobs&quot; makes the assumption of a 1:1 match ratio: 1 job opening will be filled by 1 applicant. But that&#x27;s never true. Forget about the remote jobs. What&#x27;s the applications to job openings ratio for the ones that do not offer remote work?
danabramsover 2 years ago
So if your org can get excellent at remote work, you have a distinct competitive advantage in hiring...
Tade0over 2 years ago
I wonder how those applications translate into <i>applicants</i>?
PicassoCTsover 2 years ago
So a remote job will become a trophy? If you suck, you are in the office kindergarden panopticon, until you either get good or quit?
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s3000over 2 years ago
There will be, once the competitors are founded that take away the best employees.
musha68kover 2 years ago
What is a “LinkedIn”?
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dgeiser13over 2 years ago
At this time.