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Base editing: Revolutionary therapy clears girl's incurable cancer

722 pointsby sonabinuover 2 years ago

26 comments

DoreenMicheleover 2 years ago
In layman&#x27;s terms: She had a particularly vicious form of cancer where the very cells that are supposed to protect your health -- your T-cells -- are the enemy. So they made three edits to donor cells and wiped out her compromised cells. Then gave her a bone marrow transplant afterwards to replenish her immune system with new cells.<p>I&#x27;m squeamish about genetic research, but this looks really good to me. I hope she recovers fully and there are no further complications, though I imagine it&#x27;s too early to guess what her prognosis might be.<p><i>So there are already trials of base editing under way in sickle-cell disease, as well as high cholesterol that runs in families and the blood disorder beta-thalassemia.</i><p>That&#x27;s a big deal for people with those genetic disorders.
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kliptover 2 years ago
&gt; The team at Great Ormond Street used a technology called base editing, which was invented only six years ago.<p>Fun fact: J M Barrie who wrote Peter Pan donated the copyright of both the book and play in perpetuity to Ormond Street children&#x27;s hospital. It&#x27;s been a significant source of funding for them over the years.
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fastballover 2 years ago
In response to the multiple people asking if base editing and CRISPR are the same, the answer is: not quite. Same idea, different enzyme.<p>The enzyme used by CRISPR is Cas9 (which is why you&#x27;ll often see it referred to as CRISPR-Cas9), which acts like a pair of molecular scissors and cuts strands of DNA at a specific point in the genome.<p>Base editing is a newer technique and utilizes an enzyme called deaminase, which can change the chemical structure of a base pair without doing the &quot;cutting&quot; part. There are specific deaminases based you use depending on which base pair you&#x27;re trying to modify.<p>To oversimplify a bit: base editing is a more precise version of CRISPR, which is less likely to cause more changes than actually desired, as is a problem with CRISPR. That doesn&#x27;t make CRISPR obsolete though, because if your goals actually <i>is</i> to remove entire portions of a genome, CRISPR is a more effective technique. Regardless, there is a lot of overlap between the methods: both usually use adenoviruses as the delivery vehicle, you can use both enzymes in tandem, etc.
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hliyanover 2 years ago
Great to see medical techniques slowly starting to resemble engineering design:<p>1. Donor T-cells added with receptors to destroy the recipient&#x27;s cancerous T-cells.<p>2. Donor T-cells&#x27; markers removed to prevent them from attacking each other.<p>3. Donor T-cells&#x27; existing receptors removed to prevent them from attacking the recipient&#x27;s other cells (since the donor T-cell will see them as &#x27;foreign&#x27;).<p>4. Donor T-cells altered to resist chemotherapy.<p>It seems each of these changes were achieved by editing specific base pairs to <i>break</i> the relevant gene, except perhaps for (1)
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ggmover 2 years ago
In heroic medical science history fiction it&#x27;s a bit of a trope to write &quot;the operation was a success but the patient died&quot;<p>I sincerely hope she survives at least 5 years, and significantly more. If she gets only a single year of treatment -free high quality life outside of respite care, that would be a bitter pill outcome but might still be held a success. Sometimes giving people a year of quality life at end-of-life is a good outcome.<p>The article as written is light on for data and time info. She&#x27;s had at least 3 post treatment checks one of which was 3 months, the other 2 not stated but 6monthly might not be unusual.<p>Recurrences in blood borne diseases are not unheard of. She had some signs of recurrence at 3 months but it went away. Maybe fragment traces? Non viable remainders flushing out of the marrow? (I don&#x27;t know if this is even plausible. I&#x27;m not in medicine)<p>It&#x27;s great news, but so was Christian Barnard&#x27;s first transplant. In modern terms the survival wasn&#x27;t very long. (200 days in the first 4)<p>A better outcome would be like Steptoe&#x27;s work on assisted conception and birth. (IVF) and I certainly hope she and future patients have that.
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dossyover 2 years ago
Finally, debugging human software - this is the inevitable future we&#x27;ve been waiting for.
janalsncmover 2 years ago
Huge news. This will save tons of people as the cost comes down. We are truly living in the future.
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dfawcusover 2 years ago
How did they remove &#x2F; destroy the T-cell killing T-cells before the the 2nd marrow transplant?<p>Otherwise, it would seem they (the engineered T-cells) would hang around, and destroy the T-cells created by the marrow transplant.
cactusplant7374over 2 years ago
This is CRISPR, right? Or is base editing different?
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MontagFTBover 2 years ago
It sounds like this is a continuation of work that was tested as far back as 2015: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;r-gene-edited-cells-keep-cancer-babies-well-more-than-one-year-on-2017-1?amp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;r-gene-edited-cells-keep-can...</a>
ricardobeatover 2 years ago
Very similar report by the same author from 2015: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;health-34731498" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;health-34731498</a><p>It doesn’t explain what “designer immune cells” were, so it’s hard to tell what’s different in this more recent treatment.
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Doorstep2077over 2 years ago
This looks pretty great, hopefully a huge step forward for the medical industry and finding cures for cancer. Unfortunately don&#x27;t know too much about it; wish there was something that allowed me to learn about medical problems easily, without needing to understand the jargon
namariaover 2 years ago
We are at the &quot;assembly&quot; stage of genetic tinkering. Manually changing over the &#x27;machine code&#x27; of the cell, the linear sequence of physically bound instructions. I wonder what the future might bring in terms of higher level programming of cells.
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StockHumanover 2 years ago
For clarity’s sake,<p>&gt; “Base editing allows scientists to zoom to a precise part of the genetic code and then alter the molecular structure of just one base, converting it into another and changing the genetic instructions.”<p>can be reduced to “gene editing.”
avetiskover 2 years ago
Am I the only one who feels like a “directly editing on production server” déjà vu?
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once_incover 2 years ago
When is the head of the department going to do a televised interview?<p>&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;B3xY6Ffy_wE?t=68" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;B3xY6Ffy_wE?t=68</a>
hooloovoo_zooover 2 years ago
Marvelous! I wonder why she needs a second transplant though.
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chrisweeklyover 2 years ago
IMHO this is a good reminder that the word &quot;incurable&quot; means &quot;as-yet unsolved&quot;, it&#x27;s not an absolute.
arsover 2 years ago
Is there any worry&#x2F;chance that the modified T-cells will survive and multiply in the body instead of dying out?
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daniloalmeidaover 2 years ago
I just read the title to get hopeful. Now I&#x27;m in the comments to be realistically disappointed.
beanedover 2 years ago
Do people with base-edited DNA pass their modified genes on to their offspring?
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jordanbeiberover 2 years ago
I’ve started watching star-trek (as it makes me fall asleep immediately) - this stuff sounds like a star-trek episode!<p>Something Dr Crusher would come up with.<p>It makes a distant future where we quickly engineer a fix and inject it seem almost plausible.
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lebuffonover 2 years ago
This is a wonderful outcome and amazing science and all involved are to be commended for saving this girl&#x27;s life.<p>However would it not make more sense to try and prevent the disease in society, since there is a viral component to it? It is a retro-virus and was first discovered in 1977. Is there even research on a vaccine? We have one for cervical cancer. (Hit&#x27;s a nerve since I have a child with Lymphoma)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;news-room&#x2F;fact-sheets&#x2F;detail&#x2F;human-t-lymphotropic-virus-type-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;news-room&#x2F;fact-sheets&#x2F;detail&#x2F;human-t-lym...</a>
smeejover 2 years ago
Tangential, but I wonder how long it&#x27;ll be before we start combining these recent advances in AI with a dataset like Medikanren and identifying really custom treatments.
pkayeover 2 years ago
Hasn&#x27;t this treatment been use for a while now?
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TaupeRangerover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure it counts as &quot;revolutionary&quot; if it has helped only 1 person, and maybe as many as 10-12 per year. It&#x27;s really the opposite of revolutionary, though I am very happy for this family and their daughter.
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