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ThreeUK blocks access to encrypted provider Tutanota due to 'age restriction'

156 pointsby grammersover 2 years ago

18 comments

friend_and_foeover 2 years ago
I want to see the shock on the faces of the people who support legislation like this for the sake of the children.<p>Of course this was going to happen. If it gets enough blowback there will be a statement claiming this was a mistake. But people warned everyone, scope creep is real, if you allow governments to restrict access for one reason they&#x27;ll use it to restrict access for any and every reason. This starts with pornography, then it will be anonymous services to get around the anonymity, eventually it will be &quot;please verify your identity to access internet services&quot;.
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nmstokerover 2 years ago
I nearly moved back to Three recently, but in the end opted not to, which seems lucky in light of this.<p>This is somewhat similar to the reason I left them back in 2009. They were surreptitiously redirecting me to a different version of Hotmail by fiddling with DNS records. This in turn broke Hotmail on my early HTC phone (unless I was connecting over WiFi as that would bypass their bad DNS).<p>It may be little better even now, but back in those dark days the prospect of getting support to recognise what this even meant was nigh on impossible - at the point of cancelling my contact to leave them as a supplier, they interjected that they could offer the same services at £4 a month (insanely cheap) which totally missed the point: what good is a service no matter how cheap, if it&#x27;s fundamentally unusable!<p>It&#x27;s a shame, because in many other respects Three are one of the more differentiated suppliers here and they seem to offer more useful services with fewer gimmicks than the others in the UK.
Wildgooseover 2 years ago
I had a Three SIM in my old chromebook for internet browsing while staying in hotels without free WiFi.<p>It was blocking regular US news sites as &quot;adult content&quot;. Supposedly you could enter your driving license number (which also encodes your date of birth) in order to get the restriction lifted.<p>It never worked.<p>I gave up using Three.
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valdiornover 2 years ago
I remember getting a three card and then not being able to access half the internet because I needed to verify my age.<p>I went to the nearest branch and loudly proclaimed I was there to &quot;to verify my age because I want to watch porn in my phone&quot;.<p>Absolutely dumb policy - probably enforced by the govt.
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throwaway378037over 2 years ago
Three is also the worst network, switch as soon as you can
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nibbleshifterover 2 years ago
They also block archive.org sometimes, among other things.<p>You have to go into a 3 store to get adult content unlocked by presenting ID.<p>It is extremely annoying.
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aurizonover 2 years ago
Ah the good old days, when 10 year olds had full time jobs in the 1800&#x27;s UK factories and spent their wages on gin unless parents beat it out of them for their gin. So laws came, school until 14 in UK, later 16, same in usa etc. No liquor to kids under 21 or 18 as geography dictates. So the internet wants similar age rules for age 13 or other age adult stuff and it progresses to that end. We see nothing wrong with kids &#x27;carded&#x27; at bars to make sure they are 18 or 21? If valid age rules are set, how do we enforce them? Are we just to allow fully unfettered access to anyone who can hit a key? Some kids are smarter at 13 than others at 21 - should we have a mental competence test? Should we apply that to voter rules in elections. Obviously young kids of 12 want to pass as 18 to enjoy the pr0n that 18 years olds access - do we lose by short circuiting maturation? Island cultures often schooled young boys&#x2F;girls in sex by older opposite sex partners, which Columbus&#x27;s sailors found delightful as they were inundated by nubile young women who gave sex for pins&#x2F;needles&#x2F;buttons - also VD was passed over in payment, both ways.
robobenover 2 years ago
How do ISPs do a page in front of their service? Do they have a DNS blacklist, resolve to their servers first and then let the users pass when accepting? How is this acceptance working and persisted?<p>And could you not circumvent this by either using another DNS provider?
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alexiaaover 2 years ago
the title is misleading, it makes it sound like tutanota had an age restriction and three blocked them because of that, but instead three put it behind an age gate.
Espionage724over 2 years ago
I went to check my Tutanota email and found it was deleted. I haven’t logged into it maybe 2 years. They may have notices and warnings about this, but I’m not too confident in recommending them to others.<p>Checked Protonmail which I made around the same time and also didn’t log into for about 2 years, and still had my account and emails. Same with that one meme email provider that starts with a C lol (I have a firemail.cc address), and I’m more surprised at them still being around and maintaining my account.
colesantiagoover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m currently on 3 UK and considering switching, who should I switch to?
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daveoc64over 2 years ago
Sorry, I don&#x27;t see the fuss here.<p>It&#x27;s widely known that UK ISPs and mobile networks put filtering in place by default. They did this to avoid the government passing a law to make it mandatory.<p>This often blocks VPNs and sites that may or may not be used to access adult content.<p>There is always a way to remove the block, typically with credit card&#x2F;ID verification of some sort.<p>Three might be blocking some things that other networks aren&#x27;t, but I imagine you&#x27;ll find the other networks block some things that Three doesn&#x27;t.
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psychphysicover 2 years ago
Glad I&#x27;m no longer with three!<p>I&#x27;m with a carrier that runs on the Vodafone network. I can&#x27;t log into my Vodafone settings to disable their parental locks.<p>Luckily I use a VPN and their lock is more reasonable than Three apparently. But still a nuisance
uni_baconcatover 2 years ago
I do using a pay-as-you-go SIM card from three. They enabled adult content filter by default. The only way to disable it is have a chat with online customer service and submit your ID to prove you are an adult.
bennysonethingover 2 years ago
Is this just the opt out age restriction thing that all ISPs in the UK have? I don&#x27;t agree with it, but it&#x27;s not really censorship on the level that is being claimed
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dncornholioover 2 years ago
UK&#x27;s internet seems to be broken to the core for a long while now. How come it came so far? People don&#x27;t care? How come UK is so progressive in the censoring?
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gamjQZnHT53AMaover 2 years ago
Three have always had a policy of age restricting things. I had to give them a copy of my passport years ago to be able to use tinder on my phone.
forthorborover 2 years ago
This is the same nonsense that Apple does with their 18+ censor wall of any apps that can access the internet.