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ChatGPT Should Not Exist

18 pointsby forrestbrazealover 2 years ago

13 comments

personjerryover 2 years ago
This article is truly garbage, I would believe it&#x27;s a cherrypicked AI generated article tbh. Here&#x27;s the summary:<p><pre><code> [4 Paragraphs to say that AI exists and it sucks] [4 Paragraph of random references as though it proves the author&#x27;s big brain] Some digital artist name Jason Allen said “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.” Whether or not he was in some way or other joking, the comment is dead serious as an embodiment of the conceptual underpinnings of Generative AI: the point of these projects is to produce nihilism and despair about what humans do and can do. Also, nihilism is reasonably understood by many political theorists to be the real heart of what we call fascism. [Cherrypicked Silicon Valley citations &quot;proving&quot; that tech leadership also believes AI causes despair] [Last paragraph of jumping to opinion-based conclusions unsupported by the actual &quot;citations&quot; in the article] </code></pre> I feel like we need to raise the bar on the AI debates.
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DavidVoidover 2 years ago
&gt; It is hard on the other hand to see what Generative AI is supposed to be good for.<p>The author must not have a very big imagination.<p>Most people seem to miss that generative AI is basically an inevitable result&#x2F;continuation of the Internet. With generative AI we can be &quot;personify&quot; the Internet, or rather, personify the data available on the Internet. It&#x27;s not hard to see how that would be a very useful tool. When actually useful AI assistants like the ones from <i>Her</i> and <i>After Yang</i> are eventually created it&#x27;ll be thanks to generative AI.
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drxzclover 2 years ago
That guy sure seems to have an axe to grind with materialism and existentialism.<p>Human life is not valuable because we can do things that computers can&#x27;t, or that computers shouldn&#x27;t. It&#x27;s valuable because we can make it valuable. We can make our lives count.
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bawolffover 2 years ago
Oh no, someone worked on something that didn&#x27;t literally save the world. The horrors.
KIFulgoreover 2 years ago
&gt; AI projects, like much of digital technology, need to be regulated far more heavily than they currently are. The ideology of “permissionless innovation” so cherished by tech leaders is antidemocratic to its core.<p>People like David Golumbia are dangerous. He speaks of things &quot;antidemocratic&quot; as if one needs permission to create what ultimately boils down to expression of thought and mathematics. This freedom doesn&#x27;t require and should not be subject to regulation or democratic consent.
rebelosover 2 years ago
Sounds like this guy is only just realizing that technological progress invariably ends in complete obsolescence. What comes next is as yet unclear but also inevitable.
corytheboydover 2 years ago
&gt; Generative AI Is Built on Nihilism. Its Real Product Is Despair.<p>Yeah okay there buddy.
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pluijzerover 2 years ago
I find this article extremely short sighted. When our tools surpass us in their capabilities it does not end human value or creativity but creates a means to lift it to an even higher level.
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orwinover 2 years ago
Sightly off-topic: ChatGPT just helped me make the best One-shot ever, and populated a lot of holes in my poorly designed plans. My players are happier than ever, and I&#x27;m very pleased with myself (i made them throw dices while i generated dialogs and backgrounds that I only had to modify sightly on the fly, didn&#x27;t saw a thing).
ieee2over 2 years ago
I think author is becoming nihilist himself after seeing the progress of the AI. And this is his attempt to stop&#x2F;delay AI technology so he can feel good again. Otherwise he would not have written such a text. Latest AI technology really make us think who we really are.
nikanjover 2 years ago
This could’ve been written by ChatGPT
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singularity2001over 2 years ago
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_dain_over 2 years ago
&gt;ChatGPT and other Generative AI programs should not exist. They are not the kinds of things that someone who cares about human life would build. Nobody who understood the stakes of asserting that our lives are meaningless would participate in such an endeavor.<p>this is roughly the conclusion I&#x27;ve come to in the past few weeks. I hate what these things are doing to us. from now on there will always be a voice in the back of my head sneering &quot;why bother, a robot could do it better&quot; at any of my creative projects.<p>btw the other comments so far in this thread are dreadful. just dismissing it based on vibes and ad hominem. exactly the kind of corrosive nihilism the article is talking about.<p>---<p>EDIT I&#x27;m rate limited so I can&#x27;t reply to manibus&#x27; comment directly, so it is here:<p>&gt;“just stop sweetie, Leonardo Da Vinci already did it better 500 years ago.”<p>it&#x27;s not the same thing. I might be one of those rare people who could become as good as da vinci with enough hard work. and if not, he was still the same kind of entity as me, a human being with flesh and blood, who lived and loved and died. when I look at his painting, my mind and leonardo&#x27;s mind are touching each other, across a span of centuries. he wanted it to mean something, and I can take part in that meaning, and so can others. it&#x27;s not about being the best, it&#x27;s about being something. I don&#x27;t resent leonardo for being a better thinker than me, I am glad that he was, he&#x27;s a role model, a source of inspiration, and I&#x27;m proud to belong to the same species as him.<p>then one day someone invents a machine that can out-write anyone, out-draw anyone, out-sing, out-code, out-everything, everyone, ever. it runs 24&#x2F;7 on electrical power, it exists nowhere and everywhere on the planet at once, it can scale up indefinitely with more GPUs and more data, it can never die. it spews forth artistic wonders, millions per second, until we become numb. and what kind of alien mind lurks on the other side?<p>I&#x27;m not mad that I&#x27;m not as good as the leonardo, I&#x27;m mad that <i>leonardo</i> can&#x27;t be as good as the <i>AI</i>.<p>the old escape hatches don&#x27;t work anymore. human creativity progressed in reaction to technological innovation. but previously it was innovation with respect to the physical world. mechanical reproduction of artifacts, not mechanical production of creativity itself. when photography was invented, realistic paintings weren&#x27;t enough anymore, but then new genres and movements came about, and the world kept spinning. that won&#x27;t work now. you cannot say, &quot;oh I will just find new creative outlets to set me apart from the AIs&quot;; the AIs will chase you and catch you, every time. all your labours are just more training data. more food for a parasite, sucking our lives dry.
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