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Being the X of Y: Defining your place in the startup world

38 pointsby wimpycofounderover 13 years ago

7 comments

goodweedsover 13 years ago
Whenever somebody pitches me on "We're the facebook for N" or "We're a groupon for N" I tune them out and find something more interesting to focus on, like the cracks in the sidewalk or that edge on the brown paper wrapper they add to a coffee cup to make sure that you don't burn yourself and sue them. What's that thing called?
stoneageover 13 years ago
Craft your positioning around the context of your audience. Do your consumers really care that you are X for Y? Hell no. They want to know what benefit you are providing them and probably have never heard of the other company you are referencing. But in the context of investors who look at 20 or more pitches a day? That's a different story. You are focusing on memorable positioning and also letting them know your business model is proven and scalable.
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zackzackzackover 13 years ago
My problem with this type of thinking is that is too easy for Y to swoop in and take over X for you. They have the team, reputation, and recent success. You, most likely, have nothing.<p>Examples: "We are facebook for bicycles!": that's just a facebook group. "We are Heroku for PHP/Clojure/Python":<a href="http://blog.heroku.com/archives/2011/8/3/polyglot_platform/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.heroku.com/archives/2011/8/3/polyglot_platform/</a><p>These are my best examples, but if X is just a feature that Y could implement or acquire, then making that comparison could be a major mistake. If they expand into your niche, then your X of Y idea backfires on you hardcore.<p>Edit: I saw that my variables were reversed at some places.
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stormentalover 13 years ago
Moral of the story? Know who you are and ride the X for Y thing if it helps open doors but don't build your brand around it. "Mint.com for the Cloud" worked for Cloudability initially but we tried to limit our use of it early on so it didn't define us. Sometimes it still does though &#62;.&#60;
gooddeltaover 13 years ago
I've been saying this forever. Innovation is not just in the product; it's in the concept, and the way you describe it, as well. I'll choose not to describe my ventures in terms of everyone else's.
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TWSSover 13 years ago
This is something we struggled with. We eventually figured out that being the Airbnb of the market we're addressing didn't translate well and we moved to a different model.<p>Unfortunately, I still hear people describing us as "Airbnb for X". Comparisons like that stick, and if your business changes, it's hard to change a facile comparison like that.
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te_chrisover 13 years ago
There is so much wrong here. What the startup world thinks of your product matters naught compared to what your target market/s think.<p>This guy, to me, just unintentionally summed up all that is wrong with certain, vocal, sections of the startup community.