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Philadelphia Phreakers installing free payphone

249 pointsby DoktorDeltaover 2 years ago

28 comments

ipdashcover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m somewhat acquainted with one of the guys running this effort, and it&#x27;s really been amazing to see it go from &quot;unknown niche hobby project&quot; to &quot;all over the news&quot; practically overnight. Nobody is sure why the media seized on it so much, but in the course of a week or two, it went from completely obscure, to being reported on by a few Internet-based techy&#x2F;nerdy media outlets, to being talked about by the mainstream news (NBC!). I guess people are more interested in payphones than expected.<p>Though it does bum me out that a typical comment section on the mainstream news articles is 30% &quot;why is the government spending money on this? Lower my taxes!!&quot; It&#x27;s a completely volunteer project guys, there is no government money involved... ah well.
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dragonsky67over 2 years ago
In Australia a couple of years ago Telstra, which I believe is required by the government to provide public phones. They have discovered that it&#x27;s cheaper to just provide the phones free rather than have to continuously repair them after people try to jack the coin hopper or deal with support for refunding card payments when the payment succeeds but the call does not go through.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;exchange.telstra.com.au&#x2F;why-were-making-payphones-free-for-calls-around-australia&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;exchange.telstra.com.au&#x2F;why-were-making-payphones-fr...</a>
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jonnycomputerover 2 years ago
My big worry with the disappearance of public pay-phones is for the homeless and other poor. However, I recently learned that there are often programs to assist them with getting cellular devices. All in all, a mobile device is probably much more useful than a public payphone (as long as they can keep it charged). I&#x27;m a little under-educated on what the actual reality of this situation is, tbh.
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c22over 2 years ago
See also: futel<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;futel.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;futel.net&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32118936" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32118936</a>
martyvisover 2 years ago
All the 15000 payphones in Australia are free and have WiFi. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telstra.com.au&#x2F;consumer-advice&#x2F;payphones" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.telstra.com.au&#x2F;consumer-advice&#x2F;payphones</a>
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geocrasherover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure what surprised me more: Seeing a guy installing free payphones (a great idea!) or seeing the term &quot;Phreaker&quot; on HN :D
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tecleandorover 2 years ago
Time really flies! I still remember when my friends from the Patio Maravillas social center in Madrid set up one in this style... in 2009 ! At the time and in the beginning, it was a bunch of countries only, as VoIP gateways weren&#x27;t as popular as now.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20090402170754&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.patiomaravillas.net&#x2F;hamlab&#x2F;llama-por-la-patilla-con-isaac" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20090402170754&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.patiom...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Patio_Maravillas" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Patio_Maravillas</a>
ourmandaveover 2 years ago
Reminded me of 2600 magazine&#x27;s reader pics of payphones from around the world.<p>I haven&#x27;t looked at a copy in forever so I don&#x27;t know if it&#x27;s still a thing.
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bitwizeover 2 years ago
&quot;...and never again pay for a service that would be dirt cheap, if it weren&#x27;t run by a bunch of profiteering gluttons!&quot;<p>Hack the planet!
theonethingover 2 years ago
anyone remember the needles in coin return slot scare growing up? We didn&#x27;t the internet to check if it was real so I&#x27;d always be a little paranoid when getting my coins back.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.snopes.com&#x2F;fact-check&#x2F;slots-of-fun&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.snopes.com&#x2F;fact-check&#x2F;slots-of-fun&#x2F;</a>
xatttover 2 years ago
Tangential, but what would be the most expensive outgoing call destination from mainland North America, sat phones excluded?
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niklasrdeover 2 years ago
BT in the UK has been replacing payphones with advertising billboard, with a little digital infopad, USB charging and free domestic calls. Calls are cheap as, they probably still make a profit with the advertising. It&#x27;s win-win, though they are a bit of an eyesore.
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AirMax98over 2 years ago
Ha — was just outside of this place. Sure enough, someone was actually on a call on this thing!
vips7Lover 2 years ago
I wonder how long it will take before my fellow Philadelphians smash these things.
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graupelover 2 years ago
Wait so this is a real....phone? Using old-school twisted pair phone lines? If it has a monthly cost that scales with use it must, but it seems like making this IP would be more practical, if a little less fun?
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ChrisArchitectover 2 years ago
Other discussion on this earlier this month:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33851030" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33851030</a>
ChrisArchitectover 2 years ago
This is all good, hack the planet and all that, but meanwhile there are Link NYC boxes with free calls all over NYC no? (debatable quality etc but still, they&#x27;re there)
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slackfanover 2 years ago
A free PAYphone seems like an oxymoron.<p>Perhaps they meant public phone?
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nashashmiover 2 years ago
New Idea: Android tablet connected by wire (PoE?) with tap-and-pay NFC giving out a unique Wifi QR code. And that will give you pay-per-use-or by-minute internet at every booth. A free phone call is just a headphone plug away with voice activated calling. Full hardware with phone handle and&#x2F;or tablet screen browsing is (much) extra.
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CivBaseover 2 years ago
Does anyone still make phone books? I can count the number of phone numbers I have memorized on one hand. Without access to a phone number registry of some sort, I think these would have extremely limited value to most people.<p>It&#x27;s a neat project though.
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tuxover 2 years ago
One of the best projects I&#x27;ve seen in years. This project should receive some sort of grant or at least award from Philadelphia. This brought back good memories :) EDIT: Hack The Planet and maybe @giantg2 for downvotes! ^_^
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thrownaway561over 2 years ago
I applaud this in so many ways... however the realist in me knows that, like most pay phones, this thing will be vandalized in a matter of weeks.
pmarreckover 2 years ago
I love that a phone phreaker has a &quot;free payphone&quot; hobby project!
finnhover 2 years ago
&gt; Mike Dank<p><i>name checks out</i>
kepler1over 2 years ago
How long before someone with less-than-good intentions walks up and starts using this phone in ways that the creators didn&#x27;t intend, and it has to be shut down?
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baron816over 2 years ago
Will the pay phones support Apple Pay?
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elecushover 2 years ago
really great to consider what the younger generations will surmise
plusminusplusover 2 years ago
Who&#x27;s listening in?