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I'm done with Google

459 pointsby memorableover 2 years ago

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usuiover 2 years ago
&gt; So I pirate the movie (please don&#x27;t arrest me, it&#x27;s google&#x27;s fault)<p>I really like the frank tone of the article and I wish people in general would just write unabashedly more often when it comes to stuff like this. Writers online love to dance around the idea of &quot;pirating&quot; their digital goods when communicating on the topic: &quot;Ooh my &#x27;friend&#x27; may or may not have downloaded &#x27;xyz&#x27; movie from &#x27;abc&#x27; website, but I don&#x27;t advocate piracy&quot;.<p>I pirate music. I pirate movies. Who gives a fuck? I&#x27;m not selling it for money. I love having mp4 files, I love having mp3 files. I ESPECIALLY love pirating mp3 files ever since Spotify and the streaming&#x2F;subscription model has taken over. spytify automatically records mp3 files with metadata tags while you personally listen to Spotify <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;jwallet&#x2F;spy-spotify">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;jwallet&#x2F;spy-spotify</a><p>Adhering to file-based digital possessions has saved me countlessly over the years and it will continue to. I had my music uploaded to Google Play Music, and once that was shut down (the equivalent songs are not in the replacement), I swore off streamed music as a way to organize my personal library, forever. When I end up liking enough content from an artist, I try to find best avenues for compensation, like Bandcamp or SoundCloud.<p>The things I could be doing better in this regard is better file organization and encrypting everything to safeguard against when cloud file-hosting services come for me based on some dystopian DRM file-content scanning scheme. I&#x27;ve not hit that extreme point yet, however, although I should get around to it sooner than later with rclone (makes it trivially easy) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;rclone&#x2F;rclone">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;rclone&#x2F;rclone</a><p>And when a situation like the article arises, getting your auntie access to The Wizard of Oz might just be an Airdrop away.
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indroraover 2 years ago
The issue here isn&#x27;t that it&#x27;s Google, it&#x27;s that Google is doing what they&#x27;re told to do.<p>Movie and music licensing has been absolutely destroyed recently and the hoops that you have to agree to are becoming untenable. Recently, I mentioned to a band it was sad they pulled their music off Spotify. Puzzled, they were not even aware that the licensing was pulled, and they had to go yell at their record label (who was unaware they were even on Spotify because they made less than a dollar in royalties per year on it) who has sat on it for over a year and refused to release the rights back to the artist so they can have it available on Spotify.
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gundamdoubleOover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m always reminded of Gabe Newell&#x27;s quote on piracy[1]:<p>&gt;Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem<p>And by in large I still agree with it. For me I&#x27;ve only ever turned to piracy when the legitimate service has become a complete mess of red tape and user frustration.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.escapistmagazine.com&#x2F;valves-gabe-newell-says-piracy-is-a-service-problem&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.escapistmagazine.com&#x2F;valves-gabe-newell-says-pir...</a>
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raphtover 2 years ago
There&#x27;s a language issue which has not been tackled by regulators and which is actually the mere definition of what happens when I choose to &quot;buy&quot; or &quot;purchase&quot; something.<p>This is because until recently (by the timescale of &quot;buying things&quot;) there were no intangibles to be bought or sold. An intangible is mostly a right to something - in other words, it&#x27;s paperwork.<p>But some things are both tangible and intangible, i.e. that copy of the movie you have on your computer.<p>That&#x27;s when the regulator should have stepped in to make precise use of words: you are decidedly not &quot;buying&quot; or &quot;purchasing&quot; a movie from Google Movies. You can only be &quot;renting&quot; it, on Google&#x27;s terms, albeit long term.<p>Regulators should mandate the use of the word renting as soon as there is no tangible copy that you can use independently of the company that &quot;sold&quot; -- actually, &quot;leased&quot; -- whatever you &quot;bought&quot; from them.
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choegerover 2 years ago
I said it before, but I&#x27;ll repeat myself: For digital possessions, we need a clearing house. Everyone offering music, videos, etc. for sale or long-term rent, needs to register a digital copy in a standardized format with said clearing house. Every sale has to be registered there as well. Whenever the seller disables DRM or does locks out the buyer in any other way (not supporting new or old devices, closing down accounts, whatever), the clearinghouse will handout a copy to the buyer. The usage of the clearing house will be mandated by law.
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prakhar897over 2 years ago
It&#x27;s even worse on youtube. I used to save songs&#x2F;videos on youtube playlist but they randomly started vanishing. Google doesn&#x27;t even provide the name of the content it removed so we can search it again. Even worse, some songs actually got replaced by another version (i think due to copyright issues).<p>The result is I started downloading everything I loved and &quot;liking&quot; the content to track what I already have. There&#x27;s still some duplicates but overall I retain all the videos I want. [Don&#x27;t need YT premium now]<p>After that I downloaded mp4 to mp3 converters and stored the result in a cloud [Don&#x27;t need Spotify Premium now].<p>Movies, TV Shows, Games, Mobile Apps, Books, Research paper are all piratable. OTT pulls episode out of air frequently and I don&#x27;t like someone telling me what I should watch. [Don&#x27;t need Netflix, OTTs now].<p>Steam is an exception since I think they really earn their 30% cut.<p>From the money I save, I buy&#x2F;donate it to actual content I consumed and liked or software that actually help in ownership such as VLC, archive.org, overpriced merch etc. I&#x27;m supporting the revenue starved pirate community this way. Also, This means the money actually reaches the developers instead of a fat cut by the middlemen.<p>Paying for what you like instead of what you consume means you&#x27;re supporting great work rather than spraying all works with equal money.
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isattyover 2 years ago
Isn’t the actual problem still nonsensical anti piracy DRM&#x2F;requirements pushed by studios and that any distributor will have to try to implement to sell the movie in the first place?<p>I’m not justifying the absolutely garbage user experience here though.<p>Personally: I refuse to buy digital movies on any platform because it’s deceptive marketing. You can never actually “buy”, only rent. So I go for that option if I really have to. If pirating is easier than paying (which on appletv is just one click) then you have failed and I will rather pirate it instead.
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navanchauhanover 2 years ago
&gt; The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It&#x27;s by giving those people a service that&#x27;s better than what they&#x27;re receiving from the pirates.<p>I know this quote gets thrown around whenever we talk about piracy, but there is a reason it resonates so well with everyone.<p>I might have multiple streaming subscriptions and I still occasionally get blu-rays and DVDs, but I still prefer my Radarr+Jellyfin setup to download &quot;Linux ISOs&quot;. It automatically syncs the progress with Trakt, and it automatically fetches anything I add to my watchlist almost instantly.
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friend_and_foeover 2 years ago
I am proud to say I don&#x27;t use a single google service, and haven&#x27;t in years. Now, if someone sends me a YouTube link, I watch it (in an invidious instance, of course) and I use some metasearch engines which rely on google to a large degree, hut I don&#x27;t have a google account, I use no google services, have no google applications installed anywhere.<p>The same applies to Meta and Microsoft as well, and some others. I have a general rule, if a company does something, anything at all, that translates to &quot;fuck you what are you going to do about it you need us more than we need you&quot; then I cease using <i>all</i> their services immediately, no matter how painful. Require me to sign in to use a local application? Demand updates and install them automatically, or prevent me from continuing until I update? Bye, forever. This means I don&#x27;t have a video game console of any kind, I often get my emails sent to spam, I do quite a bit of my own user infrastructure maintenance, and my experience is alien to a lot of other people, but let me tell you, I&#x27;m free and I feel it 24&#x2F;7. My mind is free from worry about losing access to these things, I don&#x27;t think about what I am allowed to say, almost ever, I&#x27;m not subject to attempts to manipulate my behavior nearly as often, I highly recommend it to anyone and everyone, no matter how difficult. I&#x27;ve got a secret for you: it&#x27;s only difficult because you&#x27;ve been trained to do things their way for so long. Their way is not actually easier or more convenient, you&#x27;re just not used to the other way <i>any more.</i> But you used to be, there used to be a time when they couldn&#x27;t treat you this way, they still can&#x27;t unless you let them, they&#x27;ve spent enormous resources convincing you that you don&#x27;t have a choice, but you do, they need you more than you need them, you don&#x27;t have to take this abuse, stop giving your patronage to companies who treat you like this or none of this will ever get any better.
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halfbriteover 2 years ago
&gt; She has a copy of it I got on google play for her which she can play on her tablet.<p>&gt; So I pirate the movie (please don&#x27;t arrest me, it&#x27;s google&#x27;s fault).<p>Is it pirated if you already own a legally valid license?<p>How about rips of blu-rays you own, which you solely use and do not intend to share? Is that pirating or using your legally owned product on a different medium?
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anonzzziesover 2 years ago
When this happen, I do just download the movie (or book or music) illegally. I bought it, I own it, and companies trying to not let me have it despite that should expect this.
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rkhoover 2 years ago
I bought a copy of Count Zero on the Kindle Store.<p>Halfway through reading, it refuses to open on my Kindle. Deleting the book and re-downloading it results in the same thing. I update the software, still nothing. No amount of time spent troubleshooting suggestions from Amazon, Reddit, etc. change a thing about the situation. There is literally no way to open the book that I legally paid for on my Kindle hardware that I legally paid for.<p>Maybe I can buy another Kindle and cross my fingers that the bug doesn&#x27;t show up there, but this Kindle isn&#x27;t even old. I bought it in 2019 and the battery life is still excellent.<p>Guess what I did after that with Count Zero and every other book I ever bought on the Kindle Store just in case?
LAC-Techover 2 years ago
I still pirate movies - despite being able to afford them now - just because the experience is so much more pleasant. There&#x27;s a file, you can open a file with the media player. Simple. No crapware, no phoning home to the internet.<p>Feel zero guilt about it.
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franzeover 2 years ago
I purchases a movie on Apple TV (I think it was &quot;Men up&quot; a comedy with Simon Pegg) and after purchase it said I could not play it on my MacBook - the device I purchased it from - as my MacBook 2020 did not support the right flavour of DRM.
retSavaover 2 years ago
&gt; Google is contributing to the destruction of the concept of ownership, as are many services of the modern age.<p>Imo this is the important thing here. Eroding &quot;I buy, I own&quot; and replacing it with &quot;I buy, I own until seller says otherwise&quot; is nefarious.<p>Giving Google, Apple, and so forth the benefit of doubt and a cop-out with &quot;it&#x27;s a language problem&quot; is not the way. Surely they can afford linguists and user-study-groups to find a phrasing that better conveys the idea.<p>The thing is, pessimist as I can be, I think they already have done that and came out with the idea that &quot;we don&#x27;t want to convey that notion, we can price it higher if we call it &#x27;buy&#x27;&quot;.<p>This to me is similar to planting ideas like plastic recycling, or the individuals carbon footprint, in the consumer mind. It displaces the responsibility away from companies doing the best _they_ can.
catachover 2 years ago
If you don&#x27;t have a file or physical media, assume that you&#x27;re renting, no matter what the company calls it.
Ferret7446over 2 years ago
This has certainly been discussed albeit not widely, but you do not own data. You do not buy digital movies. You don&#x27;t own it, whether or not you paid for it and whether or not you have a file containing that data, with DRM or not.<p>You pay to enter into a contract to obtain a license to do things using the data, under the legal system for your jurisdiction.<p>Hypothetically, if people could be trusted to follow the law or the law could be enforced practically, it would be fine if all digital media were widely available. You could obtain the data, but being a law-abiding citizen, you would not play it without having obtained a license to do so.<p>Thus, the current state of affairs is really just the reductive case of the prisoners dilemma combined with society&#x27;s decision that content creators deserve to be paid for their work (a tangential discussion on copyright as a concept).
prmphover 2 years ago
Tech in general has become very unreliable and user-hostile.<p>Just the other day I gave up trying to cast a zoom meeting from my phone to my Roku express box. I experienced very laggy video, no audio no matter what I tried o both zoom and Roku, and myriad errors when I tried to update the software on Roku. In the end I just gave up.<p>From apps that demand an internet connection to do functions that should have nothing to do with connectivity, health apps that no longer sync with the ihealth app, my health monitoring device that has stopped syncing with my phone for no reason, my MiFi that randomly asks me login before continuing to access the internet…<p>I get the sense these are the way things are set up to be. When consumer tech works, it’s great, but the reliability is pretty bad because it would eat into profits to spend on improving reliability.
nikanjover 2 years ago
Congratulations, you have reached the (only) Google customer service: the HN front page. Expect a swift fix to your issue
veltasover 2 years ago
A lot of articles have this same story: &quot;dying person can&#x27;t do the basic thing they want because tech sucks&quot;. And it&#x27;s a valid, moving story every time.<p>It&#x27;s a shame that it&#x27;s hard to convince people that tech shouldn&#x27;t be broken by design without someone on death&#x27;s door, but it does really hit home just how shallow and empty modern tech is becoming when you think of these scenarios. I&#x27;m glad that she can see the movie anyway, unfortunately most people in this situation won&#x27;t know another way to see it.
blacklightover 2 years ago
I stated this multiple times: piracy is not a crime when the alternative is to spend your money on a temporary license to access something that lives on somebody else&#x27;s computer, and that license can be revoked by the owner of the remote computer for any number of reasons. When that happens, the owner of the remote computer doesn&#x27;t owe you any explanations, and you have basically wasted your money.<p>Not only piracy is not a crime in these cases, but it should be morally encouraged.<p>Of course I feel sorry for the creators whose work gets ripped off (and, being a creator myself, I know how much it hurts when somebody eats away my already thin profit margins).<p>But creators have lots of distribution channels today that they can actually own (from Bandcamp, to Funkwhale, to Peertube), that they can monetize however they like, that don&#x27;t throw some spare change back at them (like Google or Amazon do), and that don&#x27;t encourage broken and exploitative business models.<p>I feel like we ought to build more platforms that are actually owned by the creators in order to get out of Big Tech&#x27;s grip over the creative industry - with all the distortions that come with it.
ksecover 2 years ago
This story is half DRM, Steaming &#x2F; Ownership issues and half Google &#x2F; Android issues.<p>But to point out something not mentioned and likely come up with in the comments, why not Apple iPad?<p>And there is a reason why Apple is financially doing <i>insanely</i> great. Where are the competition? All the alternatives are so good damn appalling, to quote Steve Jobs, ( Cant find the Clip ) &quot;Makes me embarrassed as a human being&quot;.
jlengrandover 2 years ago
Tangential but related. I am a long time Spotify user, French guy living in the Netherlands.<p>I always kept a French credit card for the sole purpose of having access to the French music catalogue, and not the Dutch one (yeah, I learnt that&#x27;s a thing).<p>Lately, they started forcing me to also setup an address in France, and regularly log in FROM THE ADDRESS I set up.<p>Guess who hasn&#x27;t pirated any music in over 12 years and started again...
b215826over 2 years ago
I know that this article is about Google, but the same arguments apply to digital media bought on almost all major platforms -- Amazon, Netflix, Apple all have similar shady practices. If you want to truly own a media file for &quot;life&quot;, there are only two options: (i) buy a BluRay&#x2F;DVD&#x2F;CD-ROM version and rip it yourself for posterity and easy access, (ii) pirate it.
komeover 2 years ago
Yes, google is shit. But it is far from being the only case.<p>People, the internet is decentralized. Use it.<p>Stop using social media, build your website. Own your domain. Don&#x27;t buy it in google, don&#x27;t host on AWS.<p>Nobody visits it? Good.<p>Use use smartphone less, use your laptop more. Buy a dumbphone.<p>Use Linux.<p>Be unashamed of pirating stuff, if you have to pay yet another corporate rent.<p>Buy shareware from independent developers. Don&#x27;t use the corporate stores.<p>Overall: create, don&#x27;t just be a consumer.
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notpushkinover 2 years ago
About a decade ago now, I was working on an app called Songbee. It never went anywhere further than some (dirty but not so quick) prototypes [1], but the idea was brilliant I think (for a 16-year-old me).<p>It was an app modeled after Spotify, but used torrents for the actual music streaming. Those would get hand picked from actual trackers (so they have seeds already) and matched up with metadata.<p>There would also be a pay-what-you-want subscription that would go directly to the artists you&#x27;ve been listening to. It would be in Zcash, so that artists can choose not to share their donations with the label they&#x27;re on. Songbee would take a small cut (I was thinking ~30%, nowadays I&#x27;d say 10% should be enough) to pay moderators etc.<p>I got burned out at the time, but nowadays I think it&#x27;s an idea worth reviving?<p>[1]: some are open source at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Songbee">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Songbee</a>, some are lost forever but that&#x27;s for the best
akokankaover 2 years ago
Same shit with Audible literally yesterday complained about aax format. If something happens to humanity any major catastrophic event and we will need to restore everything. We won&#x27;t be able to achieve it with everything being proprietary and needing a connection and paid license. It&#x27;s crazy and needs to be stopped.
sizzleover 2 years ago
VLC might play that .mp4 but honestly it’s hostile UX like this that my parents and family can’t navigate alone or rob us of our time together troubleshooting google apps&#x2F;Android OS because some goog product org somewhere is doing god knows what to increase engagement metrics in their apps and justify their promotion&#x2F;bonus to tweak things that break goog apps for end users not using flagship latest-gen Pixel phones.<p>This is why I switched to iPhone&#x2F;apple products and never looked back, and I say that as a former Android fanboy who started with the G1 and flashed custom roms and participated in XDA forums for years to make our Android phones make sense to us UX&#x2F;UI wise.<p>iOS simply solves 95% of all the issues I had when using Android, while respecting my settings as configured and upholding my privacy. Good riddance Android&#x2F;Google, never again.
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FullMetalBitchover 2 years ago
I left google a long time ago but this is how digital good work. Steam works like that, amazon video works like that and probably online music stores work like that too.<p>There is a reason gog sells games without drm and you can download and keep the installer forevers, that&#x27;s what differenciates them from the rest.
nrvnover 2 years ago
I am surprised that in 2020-s people still complain about subscription services.<p>Remember:<p>- you pay once for a single item - you own.<p>- you pay on a regular basis to access multiple items - you don’t.<p>As simple as that. The pre-internet model is a book library. You pay a small monthly fee for the right to borrow books subject to some rules and limitations. You don&#x27;t own them but on the other hand you have access to a huge collection of resources owned by someone else.<p>Same story with all the music and video streaming services. Someone owns a huge collection of media and you can buy access to this collection if you pay a relatively small regular fee.<p>If you really want to own stuff then you need to invest a substantial amount of time and money into organizing your own library or collection of music, video, books or whatever else you are passionate about.
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denkmoonover 2 years ago
One of us. Welcome to your new google-lite life (for nobody can truly escape Big G). Things are better here.
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willhinsaover 2 years ago
I left them last year. I&#x27;m so ready for these silicon dinosaurs to get hit by an asteroid!
js8over 2 years ago
Well, I just told YT Premium that I will happily give them money if they let me download their videos normally. If Steam and porn sites can manage, so can Youtube.<p>I also cancelled my HBO because they removed Westworld which I was just about to watch. Thanks but no thanks.
nine_kover 2 years ago
I think one of the acceptably ethical approaches is to pay for a legitimate copy (which is still not entirely under your control), then pirate a permanent copy.<p>Do not let the seller to manage what the seller alleges is yours; even if the seller is not malevolent, you can lose what you &quot;legitimately bought&quot;. Take control into your hands.<p>Good distributors, like Bandcamp, or iTunes, or even Amazon, allow you to directly download the music that you&#x27;ve bought, and still continue streaming; always go for this option if you care about your purchase.<p>With movies and, paradoxically, books it&#x27;s very often not nearly so straightforward; a direct download may be not available at all. See the first paragraph then.
eyelidlessnessover 2 years ago
I’m not in the author’s position, but generally agree with the conclusion on digital products you might own. If I buy a digital thing, and it comes in a format I can’t own, I pirate it. I’m glad I paid the rightful recipients whatever pittance they got for royalties or whatever their pittance is… and then I get a version of the thing which is in a format I could give my figurative terminally ill family with no digital expiration.<p>Maybe sometimes that’s technically illegal, because the law is wrong. Fuck the wrong law. I’m unfortunately not done with Google, but I’m done with rentals for sale.
aulinover 2 years ago
Some time ago I wanted to download a couple episodes of a Netflix series as I had to spend some time offline. Apparently they don&#x27;t have an app for macos, and their recommended browser Safari doesn&#x27;t support download. So I couldn&#x27;t download what I paid for on the only device of mine where it made sense to do it.<p>Spent way too much time trying to figure out how to solve it... pirated it in the end.<p>It&#x27;s amazing how they still cannot understand that all this DRM and antipiracy bullshit does is annoy their paying customers.
IronWolveover 2 years ago
My folks live in an area pre-starlink, and they buy their favorite movies and rent from the small rental shop. Yeah, remote communities don&#x27;t have Internet and dvd&#x2F;blueray is still a thing. Now they have a big collection of their favorite movies and can watch anytime at their home in the mountains.<p>You can also find media cheap at yard sales, pawn shops, ebay or online.<p>Also have you seen the price of dvds now? Bud Spencer &amp; Terence Hill movies are going for bank now. For classic spaghetti westerns and funny cops movies!
scaredgingerover 2 years ago
It&#x27;s insanely stupid that pirates offer a better service than the big content distribution platforms. Consumers should feel little guilt about piracy at this point
xbmcuserover 2 years ago
I get the hate google and others tech companies are getting but it is the copyrights model that is being promoted by the US and has been forced on a lot of the world by war or by sanctions. Google are not the copyrights holders of this content if you want this to change you need laws to change. But corporations have fought very hard for this over the last many years and have gained ground by inches they wont be willing to go back on this
bobsmoothover 2 years ago
Google Movies and the like have never been a means of ownership. The only way to own your media is to rip it from physical disks or pirate it.
stewbrewover 2 years ago
I think the problem here is that people don&#x27;t realize or care what they sign up for when they &quot;buy&quot; something from a streaming service. IMHO the term &quot;buy&quot; is misleading here and it should be forbidden to call it this way - to acquire a semi-permanent licence for viewing content.
ngoilapitesover 2 years ago
I am done long ago with all of them: nothings feels better than the multiverse, and I also would like my Amazomb audio books ready to use in any platform of my choice (please EU help us here), and my social graph with any available contact details from all social networks and email clients I have used.
chewzover 2 years ago
Same. Lies after lies and dirty tricks from Google..<p>Changed Google, got logged out of Chromecast&#x2F;Google TV. And reinstall process is &quot;allow locatio &quot;, &quot;no, allow precise location&quot;, &quot;allow bluetooth&quot;, &quot;allow voice match&quot;, ... - all this to stream music in my local network...
wtkover 2 years ago
Isn&#x27;t it that downloading is not illegal if you own the content already? If you&#x27;re downloading and uploading at the same time it&#x27;s different since you might be facilitating a download for someone who hasn&#x27;t purchased it. That will be different between countries.
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doctorraagsover 2 years ago
I spent so long looking for a copy of seasons 2 and 3 of Loudermilk. For some reason Google makes season 1 available but not the later two.<p>Eventually, despite my staunch opposition to piracy, I ended up pirating the copies. This world doesn&#x27;t make sense anymore.
Beestieover 2 years ago
The film will be in the public domain in about 12 years. I don&#x27;t advocate piracy but wouldn&#x27;t exactly lose sleep over &quot;pirating&quot; an 80-year old movie that you already paid for but for which your fair use was denied.
rpgbrover 2 years ago
Everyone involved in that movie production is probably dead by now (released in1939), plus it has profited handsomely (revenue at 10x production cost, according to Wikipedia), which is to say: no regrets pirating this kind of movie.
sircastorover 2 years ago
I rip physical media to a reasonable quality and put it on my NAS. I try to add subtitles to it. I don’t mind paying for it, but if I’m going to buy a movie I expect to be able to watch it. It should be easy, portable, and fail safe.
anonzzziesover 2 years ago
We need a z-lib for movies, shows and music. Revive bittorrent (yes, i know it still exists but it simply doesn&#x27;t have much content; not many people sharing&#x2F;seeding anything but blockbusters) or, make a better bittorrent.
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yawboakyeover 2 years ago
i pirated my first book on programming. circumstances forced me to: not affordable for a young african surviving on ~$50&#x2F;mo, no debit&#x2F;credit card (these payment instruments won’t become popular until mid 2010s), thee general availability of resources via torrent sites. now i don’t pirate my books anymore, or i haven’t found it necessary to. but sometimes piracy agrees with the intentions of the author of the work, disagrees with the distribution mechanism. as distribution becomes worse, as demonstrated in the article, the elegant simplicity of piracy can only become more and more attractive.
makachover 2 years ago
from the article &quot;You do not own the things you pay for.&quot;<p>That is right! You buy a license that gives you right to consume the content. It is not just Google&#x27;s fault, everyone is doing this! I believe reason it is so is because of greed and incompetence.<p>The incompetence becomes apparent when you try to use the content you have access to and it doesn&#x27;t work.<p>I am more than willing to pay for content, but once availability breaks down, a use case for piracy&#x2F;free use is created.
m1117over 2 years ago
It&#x27;s also ridiculous how I pay for netflix, but during traveling in asia I had to use VPN to watch it. So idiotic. I should just do the same thing and not to pay.
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omgmajkover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m done with most of these services since long. I keep a few subscriptions around but would never &quot;rent&quot; or &quot;buy&quot; a movie from these places.
nsainaneyover 2 years ago
The requirement to re-verify the license if likely from the content owner and not Google. Cappy experience nonetheless.
rock_artistover 2 years ago
Digital age isn&#x27;t about owning stuff. We can &quot;subscribe&quot; to stuff, rent them as long as we don&#x27;t violate terms and pay in time.<p>The pros - you&#x27;re paying for &quot;all-you-can-eat&quot; like approach where everything is available (as long as you pay)<p>Sadly, Digital media was never to be owned. (it to be - grant rights to use) If it&#x27;s open without no DRM - it can be copied, no real ownership.<p>It&#x27;s only rights, unlike physical goods where copying can be more complex to accomplish meaning - we can own something.
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taoufixover 2 years ago
I would love a button on every content creator that says [I pirated your content and want to pay you directly].
taoufixover 2 years ago
When it&#x27;s 100 times easier to pirate content than getting it legally, you know the system is a failure.
UberFlyover 2 years ago
I get why DRM exists, but good for you for doing what is necessary for your Aunt. Good thoughts and wishes to her.
SergeAxover 2 years ago
&gt; You do not own the things you pay for.<p>That is exactly what is written in the EULA you agreed with on the first run.
anonymous344over 2 years ago
similiar thing with one mija temp app. The app is working fine, and you can see the sensors and their data updating but on top of the gui is alert box saying you need to update the app and if close it, the app will close also. Of course this is the most new version of the app already
college_physicsover 2 years ago
Zero marginal cost of reproduction. We dont have yet a rational way to handle that zero.
alexeizover 2 years ago
You&#x27;ll own nothing and you&#x27;ll be happy. Get used to it.
pcdoodleover 2 years ago
Imagine telling your family or friends you work at google. Embarrassing.
orkoover 2 years ago
Worst of all, I&#x27;m afraid you&#x27;re not done with Google.
lnxg33k1over 2 years ago
I was done with google already 10 years ago, and also pirate everything i can, including live events, and shareholders can just go to…
sdzeover 2 years ago
Torrent for the win.
frankohnover 2 years ago
The author was struck by the fact that you don&#x27;t really own the things you purchase on Google platforms and the fact that they can block your access for any reason directed by an algorithm with no way to get back to them to recover the access you had.<p>I will argue about the first problem: one doesn&#x27;t really own the things we buy on Google platforms.<p>This is a general trend with many platforms nowadays like Amazon and Kobo ebooks for example but also Netflix, Spotify and almost everything else. They just don&#x27;t want to let you to download the content in DRM-free format. They say they are legally obliged but in reality this is what the content industry wants. They have used their lobbying power to obtain from the government the laws they wanted.<p>I sustain that this system is unfair to the users because:<p>1. users can be deprived of the goods they purchased with little or no possibility to have their rights restored. 2. users cannot, even temporarily, lend something they purchased to a friend or a familiar 3. users cannot sold back of give away what they purchased and no longer want to use<p>Please note that all these problems did not existed when the goods were physical objects like a music CD or a book. You owned them and you was free to lend or just give them to a friend or just someone else.<p>Please note that the fact you had these rights was not thanks to the benevolence of the content creation industry but it was just come from the simple fact that they sold you a physical objects and it was not practically possible to restrict people rights on the object they purchased.<p>In addition the laws we have since centuries protect the right of private property. These laws are a pillar of our society and has not been done under the pressure of some industries&#x27; lobbies.<p>What follows from these considerations is:<p>- the practice of restrict people from content they purchased in unfair to the user - the laws that govern these practice serve the interest of the content industries and are contrary to the user&#x27;s right.<p>This means people should say &quot;no&quot; to purchase content on all these platforms and only purchase digitally when they get a DRM-free file with the content they purchased. It is also fine to pirate things because the system is just broken and unfair.<p>I would like also to add that even when they sell you a physical object or give you a DRM-free file, the relation between the user and the vendor is unfair. The reason is that, if we look to all the users together, the vendor can extract an unlimited and potentially disproportionate amount of money from their creation. I consider this unfair because the reward they get should be proportionate to the value of the content and the work it took to produce it but this is not actually the case.<p>To cite some example: an Elsevir article written and peer-reviewed by University researcher, may be thirty years ago, and if you want to read it you have to pay a ridiculous disproportionate amount like 30 dollars. They can extract and unlimited amount of money for something they contributed very little to. The system is flawed and unfair and the law are not there to fix things.<p>Another example: the copyright for US created content have been extended to the unreasonable to protect the interest of the content industry. Initially the old copyright law dictated a more reasonable duration before the copyright expired.<p>This means that the system of the copyright was already unfair since its beginning but now it is even more unfair than before.<p>We are trading our rights for a better system and good laws for convenience but sometimes, because of an accident, we are struck all of the sudden about how unfair the system is.
breckover 2 years ago
#LicensesAreForLosers #AbolishCopyright #LiberateIdeas
yellow_leadover 2 years ago
Tablets and Android don&#x27;t mix well. On an Android phone, you use it every day, so your auth doesn&#x27;t get stale and everything stays up to date. On a tablet, if you leave it off for a few days or longer, turning it on prompts a bunch of updates and reauthentication.<p>Also, the boot process is pretty slow, and most tablets I&#x27;ve tried are pretty slow in general (responsiveness). I think they need to de-bloat Android, especially for tablets. The hardware I&#x27;ve used these on is plenty quick.
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