TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

Nuclear fuel will last us for 4B years

25 pointsby phyphyover 2 years ago

7 comments

NovaVelesover 2 years ago
Do not mistake technical viability with economic viability. The 1st Breeder reactor went into service in 1962, there have been many after and they have all meet the same fate.<p>Yes, they can breed their own fuel but the total cost of doing it is wildly prohibitive.<p>You can get gold&#x2F;uranium&#x2F;lithium from Ocean water, try and do it at a price people will actually pay for it. You can get minerals from space, so long as the market rate of $10 million a ton is viable... etc.<p>As always, if I get proven wrong - that will be a great day!
评论 #34350850 未加载
评论 #34350112 未加载
评论 #34349949 未加载
credit_guyover 2 years ago
To me any technological projection that goes beyond 200 years is a bit of non-sense. 200 years ago trains did not exist. Steam power existed, but just in a tiny corner of the world economy.<p>If we don&#x27;t run out of nuclear fuel in 200 years, then we&#x27;ll never do.<p>And we certainly have enough uranium to not run out of it for 200 years, with the current technology. No breeder reactors, or anything fancy needed.<p>CANDU reactors run on unenriched uranium [1]. This instantly gives a multiplier of 10. If the current reactors can run for a few decades, then switching to CANDU reactors we&#x27;d have fuel for a few centuries.<p>Why aren&#x27;t we switching to CANDU design? Some new builds are projected [2], but overall they appear to be too capital intensive, compared to the more traditional light water reactors. Still if fuel availability were a concern, we&#x27;d switch to CANDU reactors and stop having any scarcity for hundreds of years.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;CANDU_reactor" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;CANDU_reactor</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.world-nuclear-news.org&#x2F;Articles&#x2F;Romania-adopts-draft-law-on-Cernavoda-3-and-4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.world-nuclear-news.org&#x2F;Articles&#x2F;Romania-adopts-d...</a>
评论 #34362884 未加载
评论 #34356348 未加载
josephcsibleover 2 years ago
Do isotopes of any element exist with all three of these properties?<p>1. Radioactive with a half-life short enough to be dangerous (e.g., not bismuth-209) but long enough that waiting for it all to decay isn&#x27;t a feasible way of getting rid of it (e.g., not francium)<p>2. Produced by nuclear reactors<p>3. Not usable as a fuel source in any breeder reactors<p>If not, then why is there such a thing as nuclear waste?
评论 #34362911 未加载
评论 #34354373 未加载
HereIGoAgainover 2 years ago
It&#x27;s nice to get some facts instead of just &quot;green&quot; FUD.
chaimanmeowover 2 years ago
The bigger cost is storage. Very long term storage.<p>Fuel recycling and alternate fuels such as thorium might reduce storage burden by being able to burn up plutonium waste from traditional nuke plants.
评论 #34350825 未加载
ETH_startover 2 years ago
Uranium will run out long after the sun&#x27;s rising luminosity will reduce atmospheric CO2 levels to below the level plants need to live (600 million years) and boil the oceans away (1 billion years).
Zenstover 2 years ago
Whilst the setup `may` sustain itself fuel wise for that kind of duration, I&#x27;m not aware of any building able to last 4B years, let alone a nuclear plant, which generally has a lifespan of a few decades.
评论 #34350096 未加载
评论 #34350876 未加载