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Four thousand weeks

524 pointsby jpariseover 2 years ago

44 comments

lakeshastinaover 2 years ago
There are a few ways people take such a message - yes, life is precious, be conscious of what we invest our time in. This part makes sense.<p>Yet, it is worth asking, what makes for a meaning life? What makes the 4000 weeks worth it? For some, they chase wealth, power, career success, get one&#x27;s name recognized, etc - these are milestones to be achieved. Things to accomplish.<p>Others will say, such accomplishments are not the purpose, let us accumulate as many meaningful experiences as possible. So do things like travel the world, and so on.<p>But it is worth reflecting, a few years from now, what really is the difference between a dream you had a few days ago, compared with an experience from, say 10 years ago? The difference is very little. Our memories are fuzzy, and to chase experiences will also likely leave us feeling unfulfilled.<p>Human relationships are also similarly shallow, even if we seek social connection, the odds of it being reciprocated in the manner we value, or of it lasting when we need it, is low.<p>So what&#x27;s my point? The point is, whatever pursuits we undertake with the belief out there that something that I accomplish, accumulate or experience will bring me happiness and fulfillment is a futile endeavor.<p>Instead, if we can function from a state of feeling content as we live each day, whatever the circumstances, then what we do during the lifespan given to us matters little. However long or short, the inner contentment makes it meaningful.<p>Sorry for the long response, but wanted to share how I look upon this topic.
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localghost3000over 2 years ago
I’m impressed by the beauty of this site and sophistication of the UI. However I _hate_ this type of messaging that does nothing for you except make your mental health worse. I don’t want to think about how many weeks of life I have left! Inducing existential dread is NOT what any of us need to start living our lives more fully (which I assume is the intent of this site). You wanna zone out on YouTube? Go for it. That’s just as valid as staying up all night to watch a sunrise. As with all things, moderation.
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jamesgillover 2 years ago
No.<p>The point is not to focus on time, or calculating how much of it you have; the point is to live in the present and step <i>out</i> of time. Forget it. The past is only in your mind. The future does not exist. The only real thing is <i>right now</i>.<p><i>If you are depressed you are living in the past. If you are anxious you are living in the future. If you are at peace you are living in the present.</i> --Lao Tzu
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pixelmonkeyover 2 years ago
A nice visual version of this memento mori is Tim Urban&#x27;s &quot;Your Life in Weeks&quot;:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;waitbutwhy.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;05&#x2F;life-weeks.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;waitbutwhy.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;05&#x2F;life-weeks.html</a><p>After reading this, I used this nice online PDF generator to print out my personalized life calendar, and kept it in my home office with a pen nearby, checking off the passing weeks occasionally (every month or so).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ekn.io&#x2F;calendar&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ekn.io&#x2F;calendar&#x2F;</a><p>Spending some time to check off the first ~2k weeks -- checking a little box for each week of my life thus far -- was quite an emotional thing, actually.
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marginalia_nuover 2 years ago
Seneca makes an interesting point by reframing death as something that is happening every day[1].<p>&quot;For we are mistaken when we look forward to death; the major portion of death has already passed. Whatever years be behind us are in death&#x27;s hands.&quot;<p>Every moment is sand through the hourglass that once expired does not come back. It&#x27;s up to us whether those moments were lived well or squandered.<p>Our final moment is when we stop dying, when the candle has burned all the way down and run out of wax.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;monadnock.net&#x2F;seneca&#x2F;1.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;monadnock.net&#x2F;seneca&#x2F;1.html</a>
leebyronover 2 years ago
Site creator here! Thanks to all who spent some time reading and scrolling through. I’m happy to see such great discussion here, and gives me some confidence the excerpts pulled were the right ones to get the core ideas across.
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Waterluvianover 2 years ago
Having kids saved me. You can’t procrastinate on raising kids. There are no sick days. I’ve never been more active in my life. Today I spent an hour running around avoiding lava at a playground. Before kids I’d of spent all that time and a lot more playing World of Warcraft, I believe.
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jmfldnover 2 years ago
The older I get, the more I appreciate the wisdom of religions, especially (but not exclusively) Buddhism. Versions of this can be found in many wisdom traditions.<p>Strive for tranquility and peace of mind by living simply, deeply caring for others, increasing genorosity, taking pleasure in the simple things, controlling the mind, cultivating positive emotions, being ethical.<p>If you do these things you will reduce suffering for yourself and others. That to me is an ultimate goal.
riazrizviover 2 years ago
Time speeds up as you get older because every day is a decreasingly smaller proportion of your life lived. A fixed 24 hour duration is perceived as a smaller and smaller window into our lives, at any point in time. So life speeding up is just a mental distortion.<p>Instead then, focus on figuring out how to live more healthily. Advances there objectively provide dividends.<p>Also if you’re selfishly wondering what type of problems to devote your life to, develop your empathy and do things that benefit others, because as your time on the clock runs down, the value of your successes in that category don’t also diminish, unlike everything else. Giving is the gift that keeps on giving, so to speak.
sk1pperover 2 years ago
Man, yeah, I feel that; I just don’t have enough time to do everything I want to do.<p>- me, laying on my couch and mindlessly browsing HN<p>There are things I want to do that I legitimately <i>don’t</i> have time for, even though I have time to browse HN. Or at least, I won’t make time for them, because they’re quite time consuming. I want to learn Japanese, make my own top-down RPG, get a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu. Build some cool woodworking projects. Start a blog. Photography. Get better at golf. I’m interested in everything, I could rattle off tons more things that I would love to spend time on.<p>But these must compete with other things I love to do, as well as things I must do.<p>I’ve been doing some game programming recently and have gotten really excited because I finally have grokked Godot. But, I’m not sure I have the time to actually make my own game of any quality.<p>Actually just giving up on that project might be freeing. Like when I gave up on Advent of Code on Day 17 due to problems taking me too long, I was more relieved than anything. I think this is what’s behind giving up on the idea of being able to do all of the stuff you want to do.<p>The problem is that this is fairly soul-crushing. When I have a side project going that I’m really interested in, it’s quite fun and energizing.<p>But I can be obsessive, so all of this extra energy goes towards the project. I think I end up netting negative, because I’m spending so much time and energy on the project. I will also start to abandon other responsibilities and fall behind in other areas of life. Exercise, chores, other but less sexy projects I care about (meditation is always the first to get discarded).<p>Eventually I hit a point where I realize I need to get my act together, and by then, letting go of the big project is relieving, but sad.<p>I guess the problem here is more with the obsessiveness than topics in the article, but they might be related. Like, I‘m constantly chasing novelty. This is probably common nowadays due to the internet. I’m a true geek who loves learning stuff, and I like doing it in a hands on fashion. Having an effectively infinite stream of novel things I can teach myself (minus BJJ and such) to do is just plain addicting.<p>I’m not quite sure what to do about this. This habit has made me a much better programmer. And I’m always doing something I love doing. But there’s collateral damage to other things I care about. And eventually I start feeling like I have no time to do what I need to do, and also what I want to do.
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TurkishPoptartover 2 years ago
&gt;You have lived one thousand seven hundred seventy-four of them so far That’s a significant amount of the weeks you’ll see. The psychologist Erik Erikson suggests that at this phase of life you focus on the virtue of love. Share yourself more intimately with others and invest in happy relationships so that your future weeks can be lived well with companionship and purpose.<p>Jesus, I&#x27;m going to cry. FML.
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metadatover 2 years ago
What&#x27;s with the Date-Picker widget on the first screen? Is it supposed to do something or anything at all?<p>I&#x27;m using Brave on Android.
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irrationalover 2 years ago
The older I get (I’m in my 50s) the more I look forward to death (not that I’m doing anything to hasten my way there). No more taxes. No more work. No more responsibilities. No more concerns. Rest in Peace indeed.
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charles_fover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m in the middle of the book, it&#x27;s very inspirational. This websites great, thanks!
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unixheroover 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t like these &quot;this is the time you live&quot; sort of analyses. They make me uneasy and potentially depressed. So no thanks, backing out here.
d2049over 2 years ago
This post strongly resonated with me. Recently I have had no external life commitments for an extended period and I&#x27;ve constantly had the impression that I&#x27;m wasting my life. Most days I wake up trying to grasp at something meaningful to do with my time, but no matter what I accomplish - say on personal projects that I more often than not eventually abandon - it doesn&#x27;t feel enough. I routinely ask myself, &quot;What am I doing with my life&quot; but I don&#x27;t know how to answer these questions. I tend to fill my days with consuming media, personal hobbies, socializing and physical survival (cooking, eating, sleeping) but it all seems trivial. I wish I had something meaningful to do, like working towards a cause that I deeply believe in, or raising a family, but those things just haven&#x27;t happened for me yet.
hellotobyover 2 years ago
Once you can accept that your own life is insignificant and essentially meaningless, you can stop worrying about how many weeks, days, months or minutes you&#x27;ll be here for and just appreciate the moment in which you are living. Perhaps you can even be grateful that you have lived at all.
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college_physicsover 2 years ago
One of the oldest known songs is the song of Seikilos from ancient Greece. It goes like this in translation<p>&gt; While you live, shine<p>&gt; have no grief at all<p>&gt; life exists only for a short while<p>&gt; and time demands its toll.<p>Culture and social structures can mollify or exacerbate the problem of a sentient brain contemplating its demise but wont make it go away.<p>Once we accept that, it is an empirical problem to find which arrangements work for most of people most of the time.<p>A frequently proposed solution that underlies many philosophies and religions is ubuntu, &quot;finding meaning through others&quot;: from family and friends to generic strangers on HN.
benkaiserover 2 years ago
For anyone wanting a chrome new tab page that shows your weeks lived &#x2F; weeks left, here is one I made a while ago:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;life-clock-new-tab-page&#x2F;hpbfjnhippjockepghakfijgfjildojg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;life-clock-new-tab...</a><p>It&#x27;s also open source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;benkaiser&#x2F;lifeclock">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;benkaiser&#x2F;lifeclock</a>
Kiroover 2 years ago
&gt; In an ideal world the only person making decisions about your time is you. However this comes at a cost that’s not worth paying.<p>Big disagree on this. I&#x27;m so much happier now when I&#x27;ve started saying no to anything I don&#x27;t want to do. What&#x27;s the cost? Sure, I meet and bond with less people but doesn&#x27;t really feel like a big loss. I&#x27;m happy being alone with a few good friends and family that respect my integrity and don&#x27;t demand or expect me to do stuff I don&#x27;t want.
jcpstover 2 years ago
The site is pretty. However, I do not get the same message from this site as I do from the book it’s based on.<p>When you get farther into the site and it’s telling you what you should be doing… no thanks. That comes off as prescriptive and condescending to me. I did not get that from the book.<p>I found the book to be more of a thoughtful reflection on “the productivity trap”. Also the pace at which the book introduces and moves past existential dread is much smoother.
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lazerl0rdover 2 years ago
What I never end up understanding about such topics is what is truly meant by &quot;understanding&quot; [that we have finite lives]. Don&#x27;t we all know that anyways? Are we being asked to calm down and accept that? If so, isn&#x27;t such futile for those that couldn&#x27;t initially (as I don&#x27;t see how reading a book would change their psyche) and placebo for those that could (as they&#x27;ve just never considered life in that way)?
canedover 2 years ago
The moral: stop worrying about productivity and get back to living and loving.<p>Also, stop wasting hours a day reading HN.
time0utover 2 years ago
Very aesthetically pleasing website!<p>I was just browsing in a bookstore yesterday and this book caught my eye. I promised to myself that I’d only leave with one, so I put it down as I had spotted Jeff Hawkins latest book (from 2021) that I had planned to read.<p>Has anyone read this book?
playingalongover 2 years ago
Does anyone remember an early 90s program for DOS which among other things it would ask for you DOB and output your predicted DOD based on life expectancy? It was graphics, not text. I faintly remember some skeletons illustrations to this dialog.
creatableover 2 years ago
Thanks for the existential dread.
thenerdheadover 2 years ago
I liked this book as much as anyone else, but you can really just read Ecclesiastes, Nietzsche, or any of the big 3 stoics and come to the same conclusions of absurdity -&gt; meaning.<p>Cool site that matches the color scheme of the book.
harshawover 2 years ago
Not the kind to usually complain about UI but on my android browser there doesn&#x27;t appear to be a way to bypass the date picker meaning that I have to scroll back in time a month at a time. 576 times to be precise.
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jobghover 2 years ago
I hadn&#x27;t really calculated what percentage my life I&#x27;ve used up. This is so anxiety inducing. I&#x27;m realizing how much of my time I&#x27;ve wasted. I need to live more.
mrfumierover 2 years ago
Seems nice but I stopped at the first textbox. No, I won&#x27;t waste my time scrolling tru a date picker while I could input the date numbers directly with my keyboard.
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mkarlinerover 2 years ago
Sigh. Yet another HN post that doesn&#x27;t work on mobile...
Freak_NLover 2 years ago
&gt; Choose single-purpose devices like an e-reader where it’s tedious and awkward to do anything but read.<p>Or, you know, an actual paper book. :)
sd2022alover 2 years ago
Very inspiring and thoughtful ! I feel overwhelmed from time to time and this is a great reminder to prioritize and set boundaries.
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Aeolunover 2 years ago
&gt; We treat our time as something to horde<p>I’m having a hard time understanding how this mistake is made.<p>Hoard and horde are not even close to the same. They sound the same, but before you write it, shouldn’t you have read it at least once?<p>Or consider that maybe ‘mass of people’ is probably not the same word that’s used for ‘amass a a bunch of stuff’?<p>Actually, now that I consider it, it makes total sense that you’d use the same word for that… guess I’ve answered myself.<p>Anyway, it’s hoard.
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braindead_inover 2 years ago
Life is an infinite game. You cannot win it. The only way out is to realise you&#x27;re the game.
reality_inspctrover 2 years ago
show hn: been building a calendar app around similar principles. see how many hours you have and spend them.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sundialcalendar.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sundialcalendar.com&#x2F;</a>
quickthrower2over 2 years ago
There is no way I will have fun with this; so I didn’t enter the date.
moneywoesover 2 years ago
yikes that calculation really triggered my depressive thoughts
adenozineover 2 years ago
Unusable bc of scrolljacking. Latest Edge on latest iOS.
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sublinearover 2 years ago
I was fine with this until the list at the end that conflates self help tips with consumer trends.
cod1rover 2 years ago
it is what it is broskies. appreciate every moment :)
justincliftover 2 years ago
First thing it does is ask for PII.<p>That&#x27;s a big Nope right there. :(
komali2over 2 years ago
&gt; Practice doing nothing<p>I&#x27;ve been thinking about this a lot lately. I really like the videos by &quot;Unmotivational Speaker Self-help Singh&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=8An2SxNFvmU">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=8An2SxNFvmU</a><p>&gt; Just do nothing... do the least amount of work without getting fired... release yourself of obligation and responsibility... everything you think you need to do has been done before you, and will be done without you... you are not special... the world is fucked, and you cannot unfuck it, so just do you... stop searching for the meaning of life, that is futile, you will die just as confused as you are now... so just be happy<p>Recently my partner got laid off with a 3 month severance, and after working her ass off for years it&#x27;s her first chance to relax &quot;without guilt,&quot; she&#x27;s literally being paid to do nothing (and, well, look for a job, but in her market it won&#x27;t take long to find another). It&#x27;s been fascinating to watch her jump between guilt at doing nothing but playing Elden Ring, to righteousness that she deserves it, to fanatic exploration of new hobbies and skills, back to tremendous laziness.<p>She complains about being bored, and it makes me think, what a fantastic opportunity, to be bored. What a privilege, honestly, what a <i>human right</i>, that&#x27;s been stolen from all of us. The right to be bored. To sit around, having exhausted all the little means to entertain yourself, finally just sitting in your chair, thinking, what&#x27;s the point? Why am I here? Why am I alive? What should I do with myself?<p>She gets to explore what her purpose is. I think the way we&#x27;ve structured our society, growth capitalism, has stolen that opportunity from us. We have no chance to feel bored like that, we have to get up at 7 so we can get to the gym in time, so that we can be in the car sitting in traffic mad at eachother for 40 minutes, maybe listening to a podcast so the time is &quot;at least productive.&quot; Then you have to be at work and executing someone else&#x27;s values for 8 hours. Then home, and you MUST take your remaining few hours for either errands and chores, or, enforced leisure time, after all, when else will you get to play Elden Right? Or the hundreds of other games in your Steam backlog? Or your massive unread reading list? Or unwatched TV and Movie list?<p>But mostly it centers around that work time stealing your purpose, your value. My purpose is I&#x27;m a really good engineer, I build really good websites with fantastic SEO, good designs that deliver high click through rates so that my company makes lots of money. That is Who I Am and What I Do Well. Take away that job, close the company down, then what are you? Well, I guess the same thing, but for someone else, soon as you can find a new job. Take it all away, <i>then</i> what are you?<p>A good accusation of this position is that it could apply to any form of identity. Who are you? A good mother. Take the kids away, then what are you? Well, for a while, probably nobody. But something feels particularly, uniquely, hollow about the purpose of our life being taken away Work.<p>I think it&#x27;s long time that we leverage our incredible technology to take a load off our shoulders, let the machines do more of the work for a change, and let ourselves experience a bit more boredom. Maybe only a few of us will because everyone&#x27;s netflix backlog is big enough to fit a lifetime, who knows, but that doesn&#x27;t sound so bad either.
WhiteBlueSkiesover 2 years ago
This depressive garbage has unfortunately proliferated itself way too much in tech spaces like HN.<p>Nonsense like this pretends to be wisdom but it&#x27;s the very opposite of it and it has only one message: become more anxious because time is limited. No one will be helped by this, despite the gorgeous UI it&#x27;s a filthy life degrading viewpoint that needs to be dismantled.<p>Avoid those that make you fearful and sad that degrade you back into disease and death. -Rumi<p>I may write a blogpost about this soon.