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Ask HN: Why is on-device search terrible?

38 pointsby yonzover 2 years ago
My search experience across a lot of products is, to put it bluntly, garbage. Apple Mail, Gmail App on Android, Finder search, Windows Explorer search, MacOs Spotlight... rarely find what I&#x27;m looking for.<p>Why is it so bad? Are indexes &#x2F; Io ops really that expensive?

11 comments

pjotover 2 years ago
On the other hand, search in Photos on iPhone is _scary_ good.<p>Searching for “baseball” will return pictures of a baseball, a team playing baseball, photos that were taken at the location of a baseball stadium, AND photos that literally have the word baseball in text somewhere within the photo.
MH15over 2 years ago
iOS spotlight used to work well- now there&#x27;s a three second delay at times while it fetches the internet-enabled features. All I want is it to find my apps for me!
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f1reflyover 2 years ago
Try `find &#x2F; -iname &quot;<i>foo</i>&quot; 2&gt;&#x2F;dev&#x2F;null`, works every time. Also can take quite some time.
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runjakeover 2 years ago
Data point: Spotlight and the Gmail app searches work great for me. What issues are you seeing?<p>Have you tried rebuilding your Spotlight index? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;HT201716" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;HT201716</a><p>Have you tried rebuilding your Mail.app index? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;guide&#x2F;mail&#x2F;rebuild-mailboxes-mlhlp1227&#x2F;mac" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;guide&#x2F;mail&#x2F;rebuild-mailboxes-mlhlp...</a>
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wrldosover 2 years ago
I don’t use search. I carefully put things where I will find them.
abrookewoodover 2 years ago
On Windows, please try Everything from Void Tools. It is insanely quick: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.voidtools.com&#x2F;en-au&#x2F;support&#x2F;everything&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.voidtools.com&#x2F;en-au&#x2F;support&#x2F;everything&#x2F;</a>
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simneover 2 years ago
This has same roots as why far manager (norton commander clone) does not popular on MacOs.<p>- For fast search need to use indexes, which tend to be few times larger than data. Far on MacOs show 4-5 versions of same file (&quot;timemachine&quot; version system).<p>I think this is just psychology question, people don&#x27;t like when appear those strange files.
specialistover 2 years ago
Overcast&#x27;s local text search is also turrible. It very much regularly impedes my usage.
yuppie_scumover 2 years ago
If you’ve ever ran a Mongo cluster you know that yes, search&#x2F;indexing is expensive
NoThisIsMeover 2 years ago
It&#x27;s pretty great on GNOME tbh. It worked well on Windows 7 too.
Am4TIfIsER0pposover 2 years ago
Its deliberate to dissuade you from keeping anything on your device. Upload it to the cloud and let google, apple, microsoft, and the government search it for you.<p>However yes i&#x2F;o is time consuming and you can see that when programs update their indexes.
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