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Linux 6.3 to Remove Obsolete GPU Drivers: ATI Rage 128, 3Dfx, S3 Savage, I810

37 pointsby blakespotover 2 years ago

10 comments

Teslazarover 2 years ago
I recall John Carmack contributing to some of these drivers, especially the ATI Rage driver. I think it&#x27;s the driver being removed.<p>Here&#x27;s an example of his forum posts from 2000 related to working on some of these drivers: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20000816145733&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lists.sourceforge.net&#x2F;pipermail&#x2F;utah-glx-dev&#x2F;2000-January&#x2F;author.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20000816145733&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lists.sour...</a><p>Poke around here for more:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20000815084204&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lists.sourceforge.net&#x2F;pipermail&#x2F;utah-glx-dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20000815084204&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lists.sour...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20001019083125&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;utah-glx.sourceforge.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20001019083125&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;utah-glx.s...</a>
Laaasover 2 years ago
This is one issue monolithic kernels have unfortunately. Even if you moved the drivers out of tree, you have the issue of the constantly changing kernel API.
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TheChaplainover 2 years ago
I think Rage 128 was released 25 years ago, so seems pretty reasonable to remove them, no?<p>If anyone still wants to maintain it there shouldn&#x27;t be any hindrance to keep it as an external patchset somewhere..
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pengaruover 2 years ago
The code will always exist in the history, should anyone get a bug up their ass and want to port one of these drivers to a modern kernel (and implicitly become the maintainer).
cyanydeezover 2 years ago
Do we need a doomsday unix vault where we keep copies Incase modern fabs are destroyed in a conventional war
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fayalalebrunover 2 years ago
Would it even be possible to get the userspace drivers for these cards working with a kernel this new? Wouldn&#x27;t you need to compile a really old version of mesa? In that case I&#x27;d imagine you&#x27;d need all your libraries and programs to be from 20 years ago as well.
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BirAdamover 2 years ago
GPU support doesn’t bother me as much as CPU support. For GPUs, if it isn’t modern enough it’s effectively useless for most people beyond VGA&#x2F;SVGA output. Modern user space requires modern GPUs.
blakespotover 2 years ago
Seems rather a shame.
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phendrenad2over 2 years ago
I can see a future (maybe in another 5 years) where Windows has better driver support for some old GPUs than Linux does.
whalesaladover 2 years ago
My first graphics card was a 3DFX voodoo 3. That was also the first machine I installed Linux on. Throwback!