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Google+ Hacker News Circle makes Search plus Your World Amazing

310 pointsby thesashover 13 years ago

35 comments

jasonkesterover 13 years ago
So what do you actually need to do to accomplish this? I followed the link to the Google+ page and it's just a giant wall of confusion.<p>I see a circle with a link in the middle saying "Add Circle". Is that what I want to do? I would have expected to see something along the lines of "Add <i>me</i> to this Circle" so that I'd be part of it.<p>Anyway, I clicked the "Add Circle" link, and got a string of progressively less parseable pages full of people's pictures that I can presumably drag and drop places. I just makes no sense whatsoever.<p>So first point: Google+ seems to have a terrible interface.<p>Second point: Assuming that somebody here (the author at least) must have interacted with that page in a way that created some form of value to his life. What are the steps to do so?
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lhnzover 13 years ago
This is a smart move. There are many interesting directions and questions.<p>(1) Can we choose to give a particular search weight to different Google+ groups that are against our profile? I'd like to see what Hacker News thinks the search results should be and I'd like to see what my friends think the search results should be.<p>(2) Following from the previous point, I believe Google could effectively turn this into a sort of auto-generated "sub-reddit" system that does not require link submission, instead being powered by "+1". Or how about the top +1's from the group this day, week, year? The only things missing would be (a) comments by group users, and (b) some generic Google way of searching for public groups or tying these to internet communities.<p>Aside:<p>(4) What happens when spammers start adding themselves to the hngp.axxim.net Hacker News circle and then when we add this circle to our Google+ we start getting sponsored search results? Can we stop this? An active profile with a high average karma seems to me like an acceptable solution for a higher quality group but I guess we can't get that information easily... I wonder if the guy who created the Hacker News circle will allow us to update our profile in the circle to include our Hacker News username?
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antimatter15over 13 years ago
I'm the maintainer of the Google+ Hacker News Circle (Well, the script/cron job that makes a circle from hngp.axxim.net). I increased the frequency to every five minutes to keep up with the new growth.<p>It's great that you're finding a use for it, but it's still irritating that the implementation of shared circles doesn't work well since you can only share a snapshot that users have to manually re-add in order to update.
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richbradshawover 13 years ago
I added myself to this circle when it was first announced. Today I've gained over 1000 followers! Wondered why and found this post. Interesting to see that 89 votes and 34 comments leads to around 1000 people taking action. Makes you realise how big this community is!
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mkr-hnover 13 years ago
Being able to weigh results by G+ posts has made discovering new and interesting things inevitable, not just easy. Sometimes I find new and interesting things that aren't even related to what I was searching for. It's like StumbleUpon in the early days.<p>For example, I needed a Top Posts plugin for WordPress. I drowned in a sea of plugins, spam, and blog posts with the default search. Social weighting put the perfect plugin right on top. And it's been the same for every query I've tried so far.
unreal37over 13 years ago
How do you add yourself to the Hacker News Circle? I added the circle to my stream. Anything more I need to do?
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brown9-2over 13 years ago
Am I the only person that thinks that the results shown in the Google search for "jQuery" are horrible search results?<p>The results are:<p>1) a Google Plus post on "CodeAcademy teaches jQuery"<p>2) a Google Plus post on "15 Resources to Get You Started With jQuery from Scratch"<p>3) a Google Plus post on "Is there already a jQuery Plugin that provides a Google+ Circles...?"<p>If you were to search for just the word "jQuery", what are the chances that any of these are what you were looking for?<p>This really doesn't seem like an instance of knocking it out of the park.
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wmeredithover 13 years ago
Ah, and now I have a compelling reason to try Google+. Well played, Google, you creepy SOB.
mladenkovacevicover 13 years ago
Thanks! This is bound to liven up my stream. I will refrain from adding myself to the HN circle though as I'm currently only a wanna-be hacker. But I do have have a fear of other wannabe hackers adding themselves to the circle and maybe polluting my stream with content that isn't as high quality as I'm used to on HN. (no upvote/downvote mechanism)
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joshuahedlundover 13 years ago
In general people seem to be finding a lot of value with these new "random" connections of people who share their interests in tech things or just "interesting" things. It strikes me that all of these people existed before, but none of us knew we "wanted" to be connected to them, we just happened to be at the right place and the right time. I can't wait for the first social network to help us connect to interesting people we don't know <i>without us having to take arbitrary external steps</i>. Google circles, Twitter suggestions for who to follow... these are baby steps to a future with great potential.
clone1018over 13 years ago
Hey guys, I'm the owner of hngp.axxim.net, I kinda forgot about this project, but tomorrow I'll be adding in google authentication (to manage your visibility and stop spammers) and fix the site load speed (did someone say ajax?!) and some other neat, but needed features.
Frostbeardover 13 years ago
So, apparently there is a limit to the number of add-to-circle actions you can perform in a day. I added the circle and then removed it, and when I went to re-add I got an error: "You've reached the daily limit for adding to your circles. You can add more tomorrow."
vosperover 13 years ago
It says a lot about the UI and concepts of Google+ that the tech-savvy HN crowd have spawned such a long thread trying to understand how to use it.
agscalaover 13 years ago
Beware if you add yourself to this list, your phone will go crazy with google+ notifications while it processes all the people following you
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drinkzimaover 13 years ago
Isn't the whole point that if these Hacker News G+ results are good they should be shown to everyone and if they aren't then they should not.<p>This isn't a 'social' problem it's a ranking problem, right?
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cawover 13 years ago
Can I get an additional explanation of what to do?<p>&#62; "I added myself and followed the circle"<p>I followed the group and added myself through hngp.axxim.net/insert, but do I have to add the ~650 people to my circle, or is just following the page enough?
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andrewemover 13 years ago
Looking at the linked Hacker News Circle on Google+, the first person listed in the circle is "Paul Graham", who's pretty clearly not pg. The linked Paul Graham says "wow. so many people have me in their circles", and another user suggests it's because of pg [0]. I'm curious what percentage of the people are linked to the right profile.<p>[0] <a href="https://plus.google.com/114939270563299965266/posts/7UHfjBcDXRQ" rel="nofollow">https://plus.google.com/114939270563299965266/posts/7UHfjBcD...</a>
instakillover 13 years ago
I wish I knew how you felt, but sadly it seems there are quite a few people that don't have search personalization as an option available to them [yet?].
astoover 13 years ago
The barrier to entry to get oneself added to this list doesn't seem to be much. I added part 1 of 2 of the circle and already my stream is being flooded with stuff like this -&#62; <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/gplushn.png/" rel="nofollow">http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/gplushn.png/</a><p>Information overload in a language I don't even understand!
johnkchowover 13 years ago
I now see the true potential with personalized search. Just gives me the goosebumps (in a good excited way). Thanks for sharing!
bluenaover 13 years ago
Great, but it's polluting my gtalk contacts
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jcurboover 13 years ago
Yesterday the HN circle was in the 600's, today it's in the 800's, I guess it's catching on because of this story.
sunchildover 13 years ago
I can't find this feature. I guess it's because I'm logged into a G+ account via Google Apps for Enterprise?<p>I find Google's rollouts for Google Apps customers a huge source of confusion. You'd think they'd get that under control by now.<p>Anyway, looks like a killer feature that will slowly become indispensable.
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niels_olsonover 13 years ago
Hmmm... I don't know. My Flickr account is associated with my Google account, and I have pictures of eczema on my flickr account that someone requested permission to publish, yesterday, but when I search personal results, those pictures are nowhere to be found.
villagefoolover 13 years ago
I would rather hold on to what's left of my privacy and simply search Hacker News directly.
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mkr-hnover 13 years ago
And don't forget that if you want to keep the circle to sort later, but don't want it in your main stream, you can dial down the weight of posts from it (or remove them completely) on the circle's stream.
Osirisover 13 years ago
I've been trying to add the shared circle but it keeps telling me that people could not be loaded and fails. Has anyone else had that issue and been able to resolve it?
twodayslateover 13 years ago
It would be great if you could subscribe to a circle and have it auto-update (keep adding/removing people).
pessimistover 13 years ago
So what happens when spammers start adding themselves to the Hacker News circle?
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aestetix_over 13 years ago
The feature I'm really waiting for is pseudonym support. Vic Gondotra promised it several months ago at Web 2.0. I don't feel comfortable using Google+ at all right now, given that my account, among others, was suspended.
electicover 13 years ago
All I can say is: WOW!
joelmaatover 13 years ago
I love this!
Johnyma22over 13 years ago
Meh.
badclientover 13 years ago
Google's Social Strategy: (1) Destroy Google Search (2) ????? (3) Profit!!!
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lubujacksonover 13 years ago
I'm not seeing what's so amazing about this, sorry... Google is basically hijacking the conversation off of HN and then making that searchable by its members, so what's exciting about that?
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