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How much can you get out of a $4 VPS?

561 pointsby zer0toninover 2 years ago

56 comments

jwrover 2 years ago
I know it&#x27;s not in fashion, but I will suggest that renting physical servers is a very good and under-appreciated compromise. As an example, 45€&#x2F;month gets you a 6-core AMD with 64GB of RAM and NVMe SSDs at Hetzner. That&#x27;s a lot of computing power!<p>Virtualized offerings perform significantly worse (see my 2019 experiments: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jan.rychter.com&#x2F;enblog&#x2F;cloud-server-cpu-performance-comparison-2019-12-12" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jan.rychter.com&#x2F;enblog&#x2F;cloud-server-cpu-performance-...</a>) and cost more. The difference is that you can &quot;scale on demand&quot;, which I found not to be necessary, at least in my case. And if I do need to scale, I can still do that, it&#x27;s just that getting new servers takes hours instead of seconds. Well, I don&#x27;t need to scale in seconds.<p>In my case, my entire monthly bill for the full production environment and a duplicate staging&#x2F;standby environment is constant, simple, predictable, very low compared to what I&#x27;d need to pay AWS, and I still have a lot of performance headroom to grow.<p>One thing worth noting is that I treat physical servers just like virtual ones: everything is managed through ansible and I can recreate everything from scratch. In fact, I do use another &quot;devcloud&quot; environment at Digital Ocean, and that one is spun up using terraform, before being passed on to ansible that does the rest of the setup.
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TacticalCoderover 2 years ago
For 5 EUR &#x2F; month you can also get a dedicated server (not a VPS) from OVH.<p>Sure it&#x27;s only an ATOM N2800 with 4 GB of RAM &#x2F; 1 TB SSD &#x2F; 100 Mbit&#x2F;s bandwith (which is definitely the bottleneck as I&#x27;ve got gigabit fiber to the home).<p>But it&#x27;s 5 EUR &#x2F; month for a dedicated server (and it&#x27;s got free OVH DDoS protection too as they offer it on every single one of their servers).<p>I set up SSH login on these using FIDO&#x2F;U2F security key only (no password, no software public&#x2F;private keys: I only allow physical security key logins). I only allow SSH in from the CIDR blocks of the ISPs I know I&#x27;ll only ever reasonably be login from and just DROP all other incoming traffic to the SSH port. This keeps the logs pristine.<p>Nice little pet these are.<p>I&#x27;m not recommending these 5 EUR &#x2F; month servers for production systems but they&#x27;re quite capable compared to their price.
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r3trohack3rover 2 years ago
I’ve recently started deploying on Cloudflare workers.<p>They’re cheap and “infinitely scalable.” I originally picked them for my CRUD API because I didn’t want to have to worry about scaling. I’ve built&#x2F;managed an internal serverless platform at FAANG and, after seeing inside the sausage factory, I just wanted to focus on product this time around.<p>But I’ve noticed something interesting&#x2F;awesome about my change in searches while working on product. I no longer search for things like “securely configuring ssh,” “setting up a bastion,” “securing a Postgres deployment,” or “2022 NGinx SSL configuration” - an entire class of sysadmin and security problems just go away when picking workers with D1. I sleep better knowing my security and operations footprint is reduced and straightforward to reason about. I can use all those extra cycles to focus on building.<p>I can’t see the ROI of managing a full Linux stack on an R620 plugged into a server rack vs. Workers when you factor in the cost of engineering time to maintain the former.<p>I do think this is a new world though. AWS doesn’t compare. I’d pick my R620s plugged into a server rack over giving AWS my credit card any day. AWS architectures are easy to bloat and get expensive fast - both in engineering cost and bills.
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comprevover 2 years ago
I have worked with several small clients to migrate away from AWS&#x2F;Azure instances onto dedicated hardware from Hetzner or IBM &quot;Bare Metal&quot; hardware.<p>The question I ask first is: as a company, what is an acceptable downtime per year?<p>I give some napkin calculated figures for 95%, 99%, 99.9% and 99.99% to show how both cost and complexity can skyrocket when chasing 9s.<p>They soon realise that a pair of live&#x2F;standby servers might be more than suitable for their business needs at that particular time (and for the foreseeable future).<p>There is an untapped market of clients moving _away_ from the cloud.
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newaccount74over 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve been running my company website for years on $5 Linode. I used to host everything on there (downloads, update checking, crash reporting, licensing, a Postgres database for everything).<p>I&#x27;ve never had any performance issues. A $5 VPS is plenty for Apache, PHP, PostgreSQL, for a few thousand users a day.<p>I&#x27;ve started using multiple VPS, one for each service. Not for performance reasons, but for two things:<p>- isolation: if there&#x27;s a problem with one service (eg. logs used up all disk space) it doesn&#x27;t bring everything down at once<p>- maintainability: it&#x27;s easier to upgrade services one by one than all at once
throwawaaarrghover 2 years ago
Does anyone here remember developing applications on machines with 25MHz of CPU and 8MB of memory? That VPC has probably 1GHz CPU and 1GB of memory.<p>How you develop an application depends completely on what you have available to you and what its use case is. If you don&#x27;t have money, design it to be resource-efficient. If you do have money, design it to be a resource pig. If it needs to be high performance, design it to be very efficient. If it doesn&#x27;t need to be high performance, just slap something together.<p>As a developer, you should know how to design highly efficient apps, and highly performant apps, and how to develop quick and dirty, and how to design for scalability, depending on the situation. It&#x27;s like being a construction worker: you&#x27;re going to work on very different kinds of buildings in your career, so learn different techniques when you can.<p>I highly recommend, <i>for fun</i>, trying to develop some apps inside a VM with very limited resources. It&#x27;s pretty neat to discover what the bottlenecks are and how to get around them. You may even learn more about networking, file i&#x2F;o, virtual memory allocation, CoW, threading, etc. (I wouldn&#x27;t use a container to start, as there&#x27;s hidden performance issues that may be distraction)
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uvestenover 2 years ago
The article does not really answer the question in any meaningful way, just tests a CRUD blogging server written in go, using a mongodb database (both dockerized…)<p>If you expect any comprehensive benchmarks or testing, save the time.
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bob1029over 2 years ago
I think the biggest thing that snipes a lot of technology teams is some notion that production can <i>never ever go down no matter what</i>. Every byte must be synchronously replicated to 2+ cross-cloud regions, etc. Not a single customer can ever become impacted by a hacker, DDOS, or other attack.<p>Anyone in this industry is prone to these absolutist ideologies. I wasted a half-decade chasing perfection myself. In reality, there are very few real world systems that <i>cannot</i> go down. One example of a &quot;cannot fail&quot; I&#x27;d provide is debit &amp; credit processing networks. The DoD operates most of the other examples.<p>The most skilled developer will look at a 100% uptime guarantee, laugh for a few moments, and then spin up an email to the customer in hopes of better understanding the nature of their business. We&#x27;ve been able to negotiate a substantially smaller operational footprint with all of our customers by being realistic with the nature and impact of failure.<p>If you can negotiate to operate your product on a single VM (ideally with the database being hosted on the same box), then you should absolutely do this and take the win. Even if you think you&#x27;ll have to rewrite due to scale in the future, this will get you to the future.<p>Periodic, crash-consistent snapshots of block storage devices is a completely valid backup option. Many times it is perfectly OK to lose data. In most cases, you will need to reach a small compromise with the business owner where you develop an actual product feature to compensate for failure modes. An example of this for us would be emailing of important items to a special mailbox for recovery from a back-office perspective. The amount of time it took to develop this small product feature is not even .01% of the amount of time it would have taken to develop a multi-cloud, explosion-proof product.
tgtweakover 2 years ago
Putting my recommendation in for vultr - have used them for many years and have had very good results off of a cheap vps. Also trivial to migrate and upgrade hosts on the fly.<p>Someone had a site set up to measure VPS providers by running a suite of tests every hour and collecting the results by hosting provider. Was surprising to see transient performance degradations, downtimes and stark differences in performance for &quot;2 vcpu 1gb ram&quot; depending on the hardware underneath and level of overprovisioning.<p>Edit: the aptly named <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vpsbenchmarks.com&#x2F;screener" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vpsbenchmarks.com&#x2F;screener</a>
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pellaover 2 years ago
Contabo <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;contabo.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;vps&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;contabo.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;vps&#x2F;</a><p>Hetzner <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hetzner.com&#x2F;cloud" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hetzner.com&#x2F;cloud</a><p>Scaleway <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scaleway.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;pricing&#x2F;?tags=compute" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scaleway.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;pricing&#x2F;?tags=compute</a>
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raybbover 2 years ago
Does anyone have tips for managing&#x2F;monitoring a few cheap VPS? I have one that I pay $4 a year for and only use it as a Syncthing middle between my laptop and phone. I also have a few other small ones that I use for single purposes. However, I don&#x27;t have a good way to see how much storage is on each VPS and the CPU utilization without sshing into them to check.
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conductrover 2 years ago
The part I hate most is the security aspects. Keeping things up to date, port blocking, iptables, firewalls, etc. Anyone know if there’s a SaaS that just ssh’s in and does that stuff? I use serverpilot.io but it’s aimed specifically at DO + PHP, and would like more flexibility on which core services could be installed.
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rcarmoover 2 years ago
Hosting stuff on small machines was why I came up with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;piku">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;piku</a>, and I still use it for those - I spent a long time trying to cram LXC, Docker and the like into single-core machines, and wanted a way to make it as painless as possible.<p>These days I’m running my static site builder, a few scrapers&#x2F;RSS converters and a number of Mastodon-related services on it, on various kinds of cloud and physical hardware…
kissgyorgyover 2 years ago
Vertical scaling is seriously underrated nowadays. Also everyone chases those 99.99999 availability, but very few actually need it, so scaling vertically is not a problem for 99.9% startups.
Tepixover 2 years ago
If you like cheap VPS, hang out at lowendtalk.com and lowendbox.com. Depending on your requirements you can sometimes get lucky at $12&#x2F;year or less.
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ec109685over 2 years ago
These test results are surprising. In my experience, when the server cpu is pegged, it causes latency to shoot through the roof unless the number of parallel requests is finely tuned.<p>In this case, there are max 50 workers hitting the server, so you’d expect 50 parallel requests to be outstanding at once. 1300 req&#x2F;sec with 50 workers, would be 26 msec&#x2F;req, which matched the results.<p>So I wonder why the server being pegged didn’t affect things more? Super curious what the server side metrics were during the test.
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Gregoriyover 2 years ago
4$ VPS will be fine intil they ban you as such load(as in the test) will violate their &quot;good neighbor&quot; policy
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sys42590over 2 years ago
I&#x27;m a big fan of VMs cheaper than 5$ a month.<p>And you can do a LOT using such VMs, now that most are hosted on SSDs instead of spinning disks.<p>My take-away points are the following:<p>1) Beware of cheap OpenVZ offers (e.g. on LEB or WHT), performance is usually worse than offers with proper virtualization like KVM, and the need to patch OpenVZ into the kernel causes most offerings to use a more or less outdated Linux Kernel leading to a very questionable level of security.<p>2) If your VM hosts &quot;serious&quot; data, you should better make sure to do your research and use a reputable hosting provider. This may potentially cost a bit more but will save you a lot of headache in the future.<p>3) Unless it&#x27;s just a toy project, you should look into enabling replication of your data across two or three different VPS providers. While this at most triples your performance, the reliability will increase at least tenfold.
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habiburover 2 years ago
Personally for me the $5 ones no longer work. Nightly &quot;dnf update&quot; gobbles up &gt;1GB of memory for God knows why and kills off httpd or application server randomly.<p>But a ~$10 virtual box with 2GB of RAM works fine. Nothing to complain. I get 2TB transfer and 50 GB space.
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szastamastaover 2 years ago
I was running one of my products on 7 5$ instances from DigitalOcean. Which includes load balancer (Apache), database with replication, static site hosting, web app and 2 backends. It was happily serving hundreds of concurrent users with quite a lot of space to still grow. With their s3 clone and few volumes we rarely paid more than 45$ per month. You really can get far with cheap cloud machines.
renewiltordover 2 years ago
Does anyone know of the equivalent of Terraform for on-prem hardware? I explicitly do not want an automated agent that applies things or anything like that.<p>I want to do this:<p>- image some hardware with Ubuntu<p>- set up SSH<p>- write a definition file, HCL is fine<p>- run a program that uses the definition and the IP address of the machine that applies the definition installing files, programs, whatever or removing them<p>It would be cool if:<p>1. There were a terraform provider for this<p>2. I can specify which IP address the hardware is at<p>3. `terraform apply` and be done with it<p>The cloud is absolutely fantastic for lots of things, and we have a mix of cloud infra and on-prem hardware. Ideally, I&#x27;m looking for something a 4-person team can manage with some wiggle room for failure. If we hit 99.9 we&#x27;re fine, maybe even get by with 99.<p>After all, the alternative is that I reimage one of the servers on the few racks we have and it takes precious time but it&#x27;s not really a problem.
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jacooperover 2 years ago
You can get a better VPS with oracle Free tier, just make sure you have backups.
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guardiangodover 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve used everything from expensive dedicated servers, cheap dedicated servers (Atom, Pentium 4), to all levels of VPS, cloud VPS, and now I finally settle on hosting everything in my parent&#x27;s home.<p>With gigabit symmetric fiber connection (that I paid for) I don&#x27;t see why I need to host stuff on other people&#x27;s infrastructure. I can control backup in person.<p>I don&#x27;t need to worry about the hoster upgrade a SAS controller and boink the RAID-ed hard drive, or complaints about copyright materials etc, or the hoster snooping on the servers for sensitive data, or that the hoster suddenly go out of business and take all my data with it, or that I reach the monthly 1000TB limit.<p>My parents even get to use gigabit connection for free so it&#x27;s a win-win.
KronisLVover 2 years ago
&gt; I used K6 to perform a load test. K6 is a software that will generate “virtual users” who continuously run test scenarios defined using javascript.<p>K6s is a pretty good load testing tool, however my problem with it is that it doesn&#x27;t simulate <i>everything</i> a browser does: fetching all of the image files, fonts, as well as anything that might get downloaded and executed after upgrading the version of your application with some new functionality, but forgetting about adding new API routes etc. to the tests (e.g. if a new panel in the app gets loaded even without explicit user input, say, a new UI improvement with some useful data). You might need to do updates to your test code with each next app version for this, a relatively high maintenance approach.<p>The way I&#x27;ve worked around this previously was setting up Selenium + Python inside of containers that were assigned system users through a centralized service I wrote for that and then used the site in question like a real user would. It was pretty close to the real world, though sadly didn&#x27;t scale too well - because with each automated browser instance needing ~512 MB of RAM, only small amounts of users could be viably tested.<p>Either way, small VPSes are still a great option in my eyes! Here&#x27;s a few providers that I&#x27;ve personally found viable:<p><pre><code> - Hetzner: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hetzner.com&#x2F;cloud (time based billing, good selection of services, also allows easily attaching more storage etc.) - Contabo: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;contabo.com&#x2F;en (pretty good option, the UI used to be a bit antiquated, there are setup fees, apparently a bit overprovisioned) - Time4VPS: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.time4vps.com&#x2F;?affid=5294 (I use them for my sites, affordable and stable, though not as modern as Hetzner; affiliate link, remove affid otherwise) - Scaleway: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scaleway.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;stardust-instances&#x2F; (overall expensive, but their Stardust offering is pretty good, when available, which isn&#x27;t that often) </code></pre> Apart from that, it can also be quite useful to take some old hardware and turn it into your own homelab - I&#x27;m currently doing that for my NAS, backup nodes and CI nodes, just a few AMD 200 GEs with 35 W TDP that are way cheaper than anything that actually needs good uptime. For example, buying a 1 or 2 TB HDD for storing data is cheaper than most cloud options, even when you include additional expenses for backups. As for compute, it varies - if you have workloads that need to infrequently do lots of number crunching, the cloud can be cheaper, actually.
tomxorover 2 years ago
One word of caution:<p>The smallest VPS are also the most unreliable in my experience. If that&#x27;s a requirement of your low compute project, it may make sense to massively over provision with either a more expensive VPS or dedicated server. I&#x27;m not sure why but I suspect it&#x27;s some combination of older server hardware being relegated to host lots of tiny VPS (which tend to host less uptime-critical things). Sharing the hardware between more VPS giving rise to more problems, e.g abuse, or over loading since they will be on average under-provisioned.<p>This is of course completely anecdotal, historical and speculation, some providers offerings may be just as stable at the bottom end. But it&#x27;s certainly more likely at the bottom end.
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Olognover 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve had a $20 a month Linode VPS for over ten years. I have a $13 a month Ramnode VPS as secondary or backup for a lot of things, like DNS.<p>At one point I was pretty steadily making $2000 a month revenue on my side business, sometimes peaking to $3000. Mostly serving up JSON (or XML at one point) as well as media like PNGs or epub&#x27;s or the like.<p>The Linode has 4 gigs RAM, 2 CPU cores, 80 gigs storage, runs Debian. I&#x27;m given 4 TB of net traffic a month, but I never even got to 1 TB a month.<p>I did look at VPS&#x27;s which were even cheaper at the time - less than $10 a month, but I passed on them, $400 a year for VPSs was within my allocated budget, especially since revenue was over $20,000 a year.
outworlderover 2 years ago
&gt; For the database, I chose to use MongoDB. I picked it because it is simple to set up, popular, and claims of being web scale.<p>&quot;web scale&quot;, but it&#x27;s on a $4 VPS? What does that matter? I expect PG to do better.
sideprojectover 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve always been pretty cheap with my spendings on VPS. So, when building my web applications, even if the traffic is building up, I opted into optimizing before upgrading hardware.<p>I&#x27;ve been doing this for more than 10 years and I&#x27;ve been making incremental (sometimes really small) improvements to the way my web apps work so that I rarely need to go down to AWS, k8s, load balancer etc etc way.<p>Sure, these are personal projects and of course there is a diminishing return on optimizing (so I do upgrade hardware when I need to), but I always found it a rewarding challenge to first look at understanding the inherent issue, rather than just throwing money at it (at my work, it&#x27;s completely opposite - see an issue? throw money and upgrade hardware ASAP and move on).<p>Some things I&#x27;ve done for optimizing are...<p>- Simple upgrading of software - going to latest postgres, upgrading PHP - Identifying data that are not frequently updated and then caching them - I&#x27;ve identified some bot traffics coming from China, so for one of my projects, I just blocked it completely (yeah, drastic I know, but not worth my $2!!)<p>There are also many many services out there that provide free tiers that you can utilize. So as a solo, indie dev, there are many ways to leverage to stay on a cheap $5 linode box as long as you need (I saw recently a box for $2.50 - tempting...)
rwaksmunskiover 2 years ago
Not sure about $4 but for $40 I get a dedicated box with Intel i7-8700, 128GB RAM, 1TB of NVME storage and 1Gbe of bandwidth at Hetzner. That is a lot of machine for the money.
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flumpcakesover 2 years ago
I pay for a VM that is <i>not</i> hosted on the major cloud platforms, it comes with 6 cores, 16GiB RAM, 100GiB NVMe, a public IPv4 address, and 32TiB of bandwidth (supposedly I&#x27;ve never even used 1% of that) for 15 euro a month. It can handle anything I could throw at it. I currently use it to test kubernetes deployments with helm and k3s.<p>You cannot get anything anywhere close to that in Azure, GCP, AWS, etc. for that price.
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tgtweakover 2 years ago
Throw free cloudflare tier in front of it and you can get pretty far on $4&#x2F;mo.
naragover 2 years ago
I rented my first VPS 15 years ago and it was cheap. IIRC the VPS software was called Virtuozzo. Since I was using Java at work, it seemed a good idea to install a Java CMS:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pebble.sourceforge.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pebble.sourceforge.net&#x2F;</a><p>But it was not so easy. Java refused to start with an out-of-memory error. It took me many hours to find out that the VPS had assigned very little memory at start. It was possible for the JVM to expand once running, but the initial request had to be small enough to avoid the error and not so small as to prevent Pebble from running.<p>Once this problem was fixed and iptables set, everything was fine. I even setup postmail. But the experience taught me that a VPS has different rules. I wouldn&#x27;t trust the measurements in the article. They could depend on the load that other VPS in the same machine are supporting at the same time.
lizknopeover 2 years ago
My VPS is $1.67 a month from buyvm.net<p>I run a web server with family photo albums that are all static pages.<p>My friends and I use it to exchange files.<p>I also use it as a SSH reverse tunnel relay to access my home machine from outside.<p>I don&#x27;t really need to do anything else and it works well for that.
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kristianpaulover 2 years ago
A lot? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lowendbox.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;yes-you-can-run-18-static-sites-on-a-64mb-link-1-vps&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;lowendbox.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;yes-you-can-run-18-static-sites-o...</a> Its 2009 but the point imho is that with floss there are always alternatives
elforce002over 2 years ago
Vultr has $3.5 VPS and I&#x27;m loving it.
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kristianpaulover 2 years ago
Try also google always free tier first and see what you can get done with that for a start <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloud.google.com&#x2F;free&#x2F;docs&#x2F;free-cloud-features#compute" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloud.google.com&#x2F;free&#x2F;docs&#x2F;free-cloud-features#compu...</a>
tobiasbischoffover 2 years ago
These tests are basically useless as you never know how much CPU to VCPU oversubscription the provider actually runs at the moment. Problem is, that none of these providers guarantee you anything - if new hardware is hard to procure at the moment they will just increase general oversubscription. Even with a high oversubscription ratio you might be lucky finding yourself on a server where all machines are basically idle all the time and all the power belongs to you.
txtaiover 2 years ago
There is also a push to run machine learning models on low-resource devices, which a $4 VPS could be categorized as.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tensorflow.org&#x2F;lite" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.tensorflow.org&#x2F;lite</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;huggingface.co&#x2F;muhtasham&#x2F;olm-bert-tiny-december-2022" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;huggingface.co&#x2F;muhtasham&#x2F;olm-bert-tiny-december-2022</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;neuml.hashnode.dev&#x2F;train-a-language-model-from-scratch" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;neuml.hashnode.dev&#x2F;train-a-language-model-from-scrat...</a>
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jasfiover 2 years ago
You can get a lot of power for your money with Zap Hosting (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zap-hosting.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zap-hosting.com</a>). I&#x27;ve been quite happy with them.
Havocover 2 years ago
Except the $4 vps generally have fair use clauses. So you can’t actually sustain what the load test shows. 20% of it is common as reference point for sustained use though often judgemental
maerF0x0over 2 years ago
It used to be that growth rate and market capture was the most important metrics. The value of a marginal feature was far in excess of anything that would save money on infra, or that might delay engineers from deploying the next feature.<p>With the fed increasing rates, engineer salaries falling, and the market now valuing profit over sales, this is no longer true.<p>The companies that do not adapt to this reality will have subpar results.
GaNuongLaChanhover 2 years ago
Interesting post, just my share: asmBB.org is running on a 4$ VPS and not a crash since the first run, it’s written in Assembly btw
turtlebitsover 2 years ago
The problem is that not all $4 VPS offer the same baseline perf. Unless you have the time&#x2F;money to go sign up&#x2F;provision&#x2F;load test from a set of providers, it&#x27;s definitely hit or miss.<p>That said, you shouldn&#x27;t dismiss cheap hosting, I use a $4.5 VPS to constantly encode h.265 and it&#x27;s been a great value.
jmconfuzeusover 2 years ago
I recently migrated a client&#x27;s app to a $10 VPS. Before that, the app was running on AWS with a couple EC2 instances, RDS, and lambda costing about $300&#x2F;month.<p>The client was skeptical and asked about whether it&#x27;s gonna be stable and scalable.<p>3 months later, the app is running buttery smooth.
77pt77over 2 years ago
My VPS is about $15 a year.<p>I run my own OpenVPN, ssh, SMTP (postfix) and even http(s) and dav server.<p>I also have a wiki and an ftp server.<p>Most of the services are on the VPN private address space.<p>I honestly don&#x27;t need to look for alternatives.<p>It&#x27;s far more than enough.
mechanical_bearover 2 years ago
What a terrible blog post. It basically ends with “well, this test is meaningless under real world conditions.”<p>How about some more robust testing that mimics real world scenarios?
samsquireover 2 years ago
I&#x27;m a devops engineer and I would prefer not have to worry about scaling or unexpected costs from the provider.<p>My dream SAAS or cloud company is one that does payments and revenue to resource scaling. They integrate your payments solution of customers to scalability of your infrastructure.<p>In other words, the more active customers you have the more capacity you have. They would handle all the payments collection and take a cut of your revenue.<p>The guarantee is that you can handle any number of customers based on the number of paying customers.
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jahewsonover 2 years ago
Dollar store hosting providers have dollar store security practices. I would never trust them with user&#x27;s data.
aka878over 2 years ago
A lot. I remember self-hosting VPN and cloud storage (OpenVPN and Nextcloud) at the same time on AWS for &lt;= $5.
einpoklumover 2 years ago
For those who don&#x27;t know the lingo (like me):<p>&quot;A virtual private server (VPS) is a machine that hosts all the software and data required to run an application or website. It is called virtual because it only consumes a portion of the server&#x27;s underlying physical resources which are managed by a third-party provider. However, you get access to your dedicated resources on that hardware.&quot;<p>(define on Amazon&#x27;s website)
LAC-Techover 2 years ago
Note to self - remember to use k6 next time you have this problem.
pknerdover 2 years ago
Am I the only one who googled about the company offering $4 VPS?
edsonmedinaover 2 years ago
conclusion: inconclusive
Andrew_nenakhovover 2 years ago
You can run at least 1000 xmpp active xmpp connections.
tw1984over 2 years ago
for me, thanks to the Great Firewall, a $4 vps makes the difference of whether I can visit HN or not.
lbrinerover 2 years ago
Pretty typical BS article. Profile a pointless small app (written in Go, fast but used by very few people) and then caveat that your mileage may vary.<p>It sure does. Having to size for peaks and troughs, for when the updates are running, for when you get a spike in traffic, for when you need to use a slightly under-performing DB library or some connections to cache.<p>The only thing this small server would be any good for would be a static web site, pretending that any web app would work on a tiny vps is just not true.