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Microsoft want court to toss lawsuit accusing them of abusing open-source code

126 pointsby ThaDoodover 2 years ago

9 comments

jsnellover 2 years ago
Is there anything out of the ordinary here? Doesn't basically every lawsuit have the defendant file a motion to dismiss, based on any halfway plausible reason?
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phendrenad2over 2 years ago
I have a feeling that no matter what the outcome is here, it&#x27;s not going to be satisfying.<p>One extreme is AI is allowed to spit out copyrighted code verbatim as long as it technically goes through an AI first. Of course that defeats all open-source languages by adding a backdoor around them.<p>The other extreme is that AI is not allowed to spit out a single line of copyrighted code, in which case we&#x27;ll have endless lawsuits to figure out if CodeGPT used a GPL-licensed fast inverse square root or if it used the public-domain fast inverse square root.<p>I think we&#x27;ll land somewhere in the middle: If an AI regurgitates a &quot;substantial&quot; number of lines of code, then it&#x27;s creators can be held liable (a.k.a. the &quot;we&#x27;ll know it when we see it&quot; standard.)
simonblackover 2 years ago
&quot;It violates the licenses that open-source programmers chose and monetizes their code despite GitHub&#x27;s pledge never to do so.&quot;<p>Microsoft never changes. Always looking for a dishonest buck. Does &#x27;Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish&#x27; ring a bell for younger players? Thought not.
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atomicUpdateover 2 years ago
Why does the post title omit OpenAI, so it no longer matches the article’s title?<p>&gt; OpenAI, Microsoft want court to toss lawsuit accusing them of abusing open-source code
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silverwasthereover 2 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Licence_laundering" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Licence_laundering</a><p>Seems pretty obvious to me but we&#x27;ll see how it goes in the court.
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MagicMoonlightover 2 years ago
If open source devs aren’t allowed to use the source code of windows to improve react, why the fuck should microsoft be able to copy and paste other people’s code for profit
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croesover 2 years ago
Is it still Fair Use if you make money with it?
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mapmeover 2 years ago
Is there a OSS license that specifically precludes its use in LLMs or effectively does so?
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User23over 2 years ago
Breaking news: litigant wants to win lawsuit.<p>They probably didn&#x27;t rigorously track the licensing issue, but I&#x27;m pretty sure training a LLM is completely acceptable use of source under Freely licensed code. It would be somewhat amusing though if CoPilot is forced to spit out the license for every piece of code used to develop the derivative work, along with copyright notices and whatever else the licenses may require.
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