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Ask HN: Platforms That Avoid the Enshittening?

21 pointsby bburnett44over 2 years ago
What are some good examples of consumer platforms that have avoided the enshittening? Companies w subscription models are pretty good about avoiding this but it seems like being ad supported really corrupts the process. To me, YouTube is the only one that's really done a good job but I only go there for select videos so I'm not a huge user. Any other ones people can think of? And any common characteristics between them?

7 comments

pwgover 2 years ago
&gt; YouTube is the only one that&#x27;s really done a good job<p>Youtube&#x27;s only done a good job is you use yt-dlp to download the videos. Watching on youtube the video gets interrupted multiple times for &quot;commerical breaks&quot;.
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gardenhedgeover 2 years ago
Can you define &quot;enshittening&quot;? I&#x27;ve never heard of that before
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tra3over 2 years ago
Linux and Emacs come to mind.<p>I’ve been using Gaia gps for what feels like forever without it becoming shit.<p>I hate to say it, but Gmail has been solid since 2007.
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quickthrower2over 2 years ago
Hard to think of many, especially free and widely know ones to be honest. HN of course - but we are quite niche really. There are a few PHPBB type sites that are pleasant to use but again for niches.<p>I would go for Reddit if you use “old” I guess and pick good subs.
CM30over 2 years ago
Well, federated platforms seem to have avoided it, since one actor can&#x27;t just degrade the quality of the whole service. See for example, the Fediverse in general.<p>Fan&#x2F;individual&#x2F;community run sites and networks seem to avoid this issue, since they don&#x27;t need to make a profit from their work&#x2F;pay off those venture capital investments. For example, the Nintendo Independent Wiki Alliance seems pretty good there, with the likes of Mario Wiki, Zelda Wiki and Bulbapedia most relying on unintrusive advertising to stay afloat.<p>For a well known platform? I guess WordPress.com seems pretty good in that respect, at least from the sites I&#x27;ve visited there. Can&#x27;t see many ads, paywalls or other dubious practices there.
shooover 2 years ago
iphone, android?<p>Linux? stretching &quot;consumer&quot; platform a little here.<p>Costco?
MilnerRouteover 2 years ago
Bookshop.org<p>Bandcamp.com