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Ask HN: Why pay for ChatGPT premium instead of using GPT3 playground?

27 pointsby rdabout 2 years ago
Pretty obvious question. Anything I’m missing?

12 comments

jklein11about 2 years ago
ChatGPT is fine tuned to be a chatbot. It is likely a pretty decent amount of work/credits to train GPT3 to do what ChatGPT does. I'm sure there are instances where this would make sense though. It is a little bit like asking "why would I buy an omelette when I could just buy the eggs?"
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goodsideabout 2 years ago
The models aren’t comparable. ChatGPT is better in some ways, particularly in giving “reasonable” responses to naive prompts, and producing acceptable length on requested writing like essays. It’s also much less agreeable — ChatGPT will refuse many inappropriate requests, but the API models never do. The API models will gladly produce offensive or controversial writing if requested, and don’t need to be “jailbroken” the way ChatGPT does.
ilakshabout 2 years ago
I bought Plus because ChatGPT is obviously overloaded and often doesn&#x27;t work. So clearly they need people to start paying otherwise they won&#x27;t be able to continue offering it as a business. And also it works.<p>I would use Ask HN but so far almost all of my submissions are nearly completely ignored so here is a somewhat related question. Has anyone heard anything about the OpenAI Foundry thing that will supposedly cost $78000 and have a 32000 token length? I mean the question I have is, will the 32k be available as usage-based for people that don&#x27;t have tens of thousands of dollars? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;transitive_bs&#x2F;status&#x2F;1628118163874516992?s=20" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;transitive_bs&#x2F;status&#x2F;1628118163874516992...</a>
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upghostabout 2 years ago
For me it’s just the formatting. For the click to copy code and the tables. So yeah, paying 20&#x2F;month for CSS. Still use gpt-3 when I get tired of the nanny sass of chatgpt. I don’t always want to gaslight a bot just to get a simple question answered.
dormentoabout 2 years ago
Also, it might be because i&#x27;m not on mainland US, but its unavailable 90% of the time for me.
carlosdpabout 2 years ago
It&#x27;s not actually the same model. ChatGPT uses InstructGPT, which is davinci-003 with added RLHF training, which makes it a lot better at instructed tasks.
mattbgatesabout 2 years ago
Still experimenting with their API, but I did build this to offer an alternative for when their service is down. I&#x27;m not sure if their API is on the same server as their main GPT service. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trackmybot.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;trackmybot.com</a>
zb3about 2 years ago
Playground requests are not free, but OpenAI gives everyone (I think) $18.00 free trial quota. Maybe you could bypass this for now using multiple accounts, but ultimately playground is not meant to be free. (Codex is free though as it&#x27;s currently in beta)
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billconanabout 2 years ago
I have a feeling that they are not the same model.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;iScienceLuvr&#x2F;status&#x2F;1627938431887355905" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;iScienceLuvr&#x2F;status&#x2F;1627938431887355905</a>
frontman1988about 2 years ago
ChatGPT itself provides a decent answer :<p>ChatGPT is an AI language model designed to engage in conversation and answer a wide range of questions, whereas the GPT-3 playground is a web-based platform for developers to build and test applications using OpenAI&#x27;s GPT-3 API.<p>By subscribing to ChatGPT Premium, you can access additional features and benefits, such as ad-free chatting, priority access to the service, longer conversation sessions, and customized responses. Additionally, with ChatGPT Premium, you can support the ongoing development and maintenance of the platform.<p>If you are a developer looking to build and test applications using GPT-3, then the GPT-3 playground is the best option. However, if you are looking to engage in conversational AI, ChatGPT is a great choice, and ChatGPT Premium can provide additional benefits and features.
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edude03about 2 years ago
Because it&#x27;s unavailable for me most of the time. If I planned to use it seriously that&#x27;d be a non starter
ionwakeabout 2 years ago
Is chatgpt better than davinci-3 at summarising articles? Does anyone know?