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Kombucha cultures can be turned into flexible electric circuit boards

127 pointsby theddayover 2 years ago

16 comments

poulsbohemianabout 2 years ago
I have a bunch of weird hobbies, including things like brewing mead, making cheese, and yes, I have made kombucha. Years ago when they were still in a garage, I walked into the "office" of what is now a nationwide kombucha brand. I didn't know anything about kombucha but there was a lot of hype about these people. I started asking questions and was directed to the "head brewer." I wanted to talk microbiology, but it was very evident they had no effing clue what was actually in their mother culture. Sure, they knew how to dump it into their tea, but that was about it. Not very long after that, they had reached national distribution. I think there are a lot of lessons in there for people who are worried about imposter syndrome or people who think all you do is build a better mousetrap, as it had nothing to do with their product and everything to do with the founder having deep ties to the grocery world.
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procparamabout 2 years ago
The mat at the top of the kombucha is not the SCOBY. It is a waste product of the SCOBY - just a big slab of cellulose. This is a misunderstanding that I&#x27;ve seen people on r&#x2F;kombucha get pretty upset about<p>The actual SCOBY is in the kombucha itself, not the cellulose. It&#x27;s pretty easy to prove; when I made kombucha I would throw out the mat after every batch and save some of the liquid to use as starter for the next.
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avianabout 2 years ago
Can&#x27;t read the article behind the pay wall, but possibly it&#x27;s based on this preprint:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2302.03984" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2302.03984</a>
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PedroBatistaabout 2 years ago
Great.. now &quot;they&quot; <i>really</i> won&#x27;t shut up about Kombucha..
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causiabout 2 years ago
I don&#x27;t get why this is significant. How is this a better substrate than any other flexible plastic? Isn&#x27;t the issue with flexible electronics the robustness of the circuits and components?
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LoganDarkabout 2 years ago
Haven&#x27;t seen the word &quot;SCOBY&quot; in years. I think the first and only time I saw it was in an episode of JESSIE[0]...<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jessie.fandom.com&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Moby_%26_SCOBY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jessie.fandom.com&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Moby_%26_SCOBY</a>
sva_about 2 years ago
I&#x27;m always fascinated that most cultures have some fermented foods in their cuisine. I often wonder how they came up with it. Extreme thirst or hunger? Curiosity? Or have they slowly &#x27;evolved&#x27; in a way that people let them ferment more and more over time?!
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wackycatabout 2 years ago
I feel like I often see breakthroughs in natural material computing like this but they never seem to make it to market that I&#x27;ve noticed. What am I missing? It seems like everyone would want to move in the direction of sustainable computing materials.
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nyfernabout 2 years ago
Cheap, light, flexible, yet robust circuit boards are critical for wearable electronics, among other applications. In the future, those electronics might be printed on flexible circuits made out of bacterial cultures used to make the popular fermented black tea drink called kombucha, according to a recent paper posted to the arXiv preprint server.<p>As we&#x27;ve reported previously, making kombucha merely requires combining tea and sugar with a kombucha culture known as a SCOBY (symbiotic culture of bacteria and yeast), aka the &quot;mother&quot;—also known as a tea mushroom, tea fungus, or a Manchurian mushroom. It&#x27;s akin to a sourdough starter. A SCOBY is a firm, gel-like collection of cellulose fiber (biofilm), courtesy of the active bacteria in the culture creating the perfect breeding ground for the yeast and bacteria to flourish. Dissolve the sugar in non-chlorinated boiling water, then steep some tea leaves of your choice in the hot sugar-water before discarding them.<p>Once the tea cools, add the SCOBY and pour the whole thing into a sterilized beaker or jar. Then cover the beaker or jar with a paper towel or cheesecloth to keep out insects, let it sit for two to three weeks, and voila! You&#x27;ve got your own home-brewed kombucha. A new &quot;daughter&quot; SCOBY will be floating right at the top of the liquid (technically known in this form as a pellicle).<p>Beyond the popularity of the beverage, kombucha cultures hold promise as a useful biomaterial. For instance, in 2016, an Iowa State professor of apparel, merchandising, and design named Young-A Lee gained attention for her proof-of-concept research in using dried SCOBY as a sustainable leather substitute for biodegradable SCOBY-based clothing, shoes, or handbags. In 2021, scientists at Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Imperial College London created new kinds of tough &quot;living materials&quot; that could one day be used as biosensors, helping purify water or detect damage to &quot;smart&quot; packing materials. Experiments last year by researchers at Montana Technological University (MTU) and Arizona State University (ASU) showed that membranes grown from kombucha cultures were better at preventing the formation of biofilms—a significant challenge in water filtration—than current commercial membranes.<p>“Nowadays kombucha is emerging as a promising candidate to produce sustainable textiles to be used as eco-friendly bio wearables,” co-author Andrew Adamatzky, of the University of the West of England in Bristol, told New Scientist. “We will see that dried—and hopefully living—kombucha mats will be incorporated in smart wearables that extend the functionality of clothes and gadgets. We propose to develop smart eco-wearables which are a convergence of dead and alive biological matter.”<p>Adamatzky previously co-authored a 2021 paper demonstrating that living kombucha mats showed dynamic electrical activity and stimulating responses, as well as a paper last year describing the development of a bacterial reactive glove to serve as a living electronic sensing device. Inspired by the potential of kombucha mats for wearable electronics, he and his latest co-authors have now demonstrated that it&#x27;s possible to print electronic circuits onto dried SCOBY mats.<p>The team used commercially sourced kombucha bacteria to grow their mats, then air-dried the cultures on plastic or paper at room temperature. The mats don&#x27;t tear easily and are not easily destroyed, even when immersed in water for several days. One of the test mats even survived oven temperatures up to 200° C (392° F), although the mats will burn when exposed to an open flame. Adamatzky et al. were able to print conductive polymer circuits onto the dried kombucha mats with an aerosol jet printer and also successfully tested an alternative method of 3D printing a circuit out of a conductive polyester&#x2F;copper mix. They could even attach small LEDs to the circuits with an epoxy adhesive spiked with silver, which were still functioning after repeatedly being bent and stretched.<p>According to Adamatzky et al., unlike the living kombucha mats he worked with previously, the dried SCOBY mats are non-conductive, confining the electrical current to the printed circuit. The mats are also lighter, cheaper, and more flexible than the ceramic or plastic alternatives. Potential applications include wearable heart rate monitors, for instance, and other kombucha-based devices. &quot;Future research will be concerned with printing advanced functional circuits, capable for detecting—and maybe recognizing—mechanical, optical, and chemical stimuli,&quot; the authors concluded.
LBJsPNSabout 2 years ago
Well it&#x27;s nice to see someone has turned that disgusting mildewy crap into something useful.
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haskellandchillabout 2 years ago
Is there a cheaper way to make circuits? Those printers are apparently in the $200k range?
lancesellsabout 2 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;N98MG" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;N98MG</a><p>Edit: Ignore. As commenter pointed out it&#x27;s still paywalled.
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snek_caseabout 2 years ago
But, is Kombucha Turing-complete?
rottenabout 2 years ago
I look forward to the AI enhanced SCOBY life forms taking over the world.
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dghughesabout 2 years ago
Kombucha tastes like a circuit board so making them into circuit boards is a good idea.
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durpleDrankabout 2 years ago
I had a HORRIBLE epic that spanned 2-3 years of unknown gastro problems. I blame Kombucha 100% for rotting my insides. A cup every now and then is ok but if you drink it daily (like I did) in large doses (like I did) and make your own (which I tried to save money) you&#x27;ll soon realize it&#x27;s essentially VINEGAR. I wont get into the specifics but stay away from this stuff at all cost. Try some cashew yogurt or other pro-biotic foods. Long term Kombucha drinkers tread lightly.
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