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Ask HN: What is a good alternative to PayPal?

77 pointsby NadaAldahlehover 13 years ago
Requirements: 1- has recurring payments 2- invisible to end user 3- accepts canadian companies 4- (nice to have) easy to set-up 5- (nice to have) does not require a merchant bank account.

20 comments

thinkcompover 13 years ago
I've said this before (for which I've been roundly criticized), and I'll say it again.<p>The reason there is no good alternative to PayPal, and especially an alternative that works internationally, is the regulatory environment around money transmission in the United States. If startups expect to solve this problem, there needs to be a coordinated effort to change that environment just as there was a coordinated effort to combat SOPA.<p>Exhibit A - <a href="http://www.thinkcomputer.com/corporate/whitepapers/heldhostage.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.thinkcomputer.com/corporate/whitepapers/heldhosta...</a><p>Exhibit B - <a href="http://www.plainsite.org/flashlight/case.html?id=716056" rel="nofollow">http://www.plainsite.org/flashlight/case.html?id=716056</a><p>Exhibit C - <a href="http://www.plainsite.org/issues/index.html?id=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.plainsite.org/issues/index.html?id=1</a><p>Exhibit D - <a href="http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fin&#38;group=01001-02000&#38;file=2000-2003" rel="nofollow">http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fin&#3...</a><p>To head off the most common objections: PayPal is grandfathered in at this point. You can only get away with breaking the law and hoping no one will notice for so long. The penalties for violation are criminal (federal felony), not civil. And yes, I'm biased as the head of a payments company affected by the law, but I'm not the only one, and I'm not wrong.
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cpercivaover 13 years ago
I'm going with "wait for Stripe to arrive" personally.
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konaaceoover 13 years ago
One of the best services out there is <a href="http://www.braintreepayments.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.braintreepayments.com/</a> but you can also look at <a href="http://www.2checkout.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.2checkout.com</a>. Both of them have great solutions depending on what you need. We are migrating from PayPal to BrainTree this spring.
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meowover 13 years ago
I like Saasy (<a href="http://saasy.com/" rel="nofollow">http://saasy.com/</a>). It's frictionless and supports international merchants but a little pricier than other options.
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thurnover 13 years ago
Possibly one of the Amazon payments solutions?<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Payments" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Payments</a>
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ScottBursonover 13 years ago
I think WePay deserves mention here, though AFAIK they don't yet support Canadian businesses. They don't require a merchant account, support recurring payments, and can be made fairly though perhaps not completely invisible. I've found their API quite easy to use.
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jblesageover 13 years ago
Go with Beanstream as the payment gateway, and either Chargify or Recurly for the recurring payments. I've personally had no problem with this combination on many projects, and all of my clients are canadian companies.
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tamersalamaover 13 years ago
Samurai from FeeFighters <a href="https://samurai.feefighters.com/" rel="nofollow">https://samurai.feefighters.com/</a>. They seem to be beta-testing their service for Canadian companies.
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gerasiniover 13 years ago
During my search, I have found that Stripe is the best solution out there. There is even a post with cost comparison (<a href="http://expletiveinserted.com/2011/10/02/stripes-new-online-payments-service-wheres-the-catch/" rel="nofollow">http://expletiveinserted.com/2011/10/02/stripes-new-online-p...</a>) that demosntrates that is also cheap.<p>Unfortunately, Stripe is for USA-only.<p>An alternative is, as some people already mentioned, <a href="http://saasy.com/" rel="nofollow">http://saasy.com/</a>, which is a FastSpring service.
pbreynoldsover 13 years ago
Since you mention recurring payments as a priority, I'd recommend Chargify. They give a list of gateway options here: <a href="http://chargify.com/payment-gateways/" rel="nofollow">http://chargify.com/payment-gateways/</a><p>One of my businesses is an online retailer. We use PayPal Standard (but don't require a PP account) simply because the UI for generating postage and tracking shipments is very easy. USPS has an open API, but I've yet to find a payment processor that integrates shipping.
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adamlindsayover 13 years ago
Stripe.com, although not sure about #3.
chromedudeover 13 years ago
Wait for Stripe. It should be there soon. Just wait for it. It is hands down the best option out there.
jimbobimboover 13 years ago
How "invisible" is critical? If not really, then Plimus looks nice, share*it also has subscriptions. Both are quite easy to integrate (web callbacks).
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pbreitover 13 years ago
You won't find anything quite like PayPal but some nice options include Payfirma, Versapay and Intuit GoPayment.
iamandrusover 13 years ago
Stripe is the best right now. Great user interface, great API, and awesome staff. Give it a try.
marksheadover 13 years ago
Do you consider PayPal to be invisible to the end user?
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funkyboyover 13 years ago
6 (nice to have) handles invoicing automatically.
cdog46over 13 years ago
Dwollar<p>check it out
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DiabloD3over 13 years ago
Consider Bitcoin yet?
melvinngover 13 years ago
Bitcoin is the best!