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Thorium – A Starship Bridge Simulator

300 pointsby matijashabout 2 years ago

22 comments

alexandersonabout 2 years ago
Hey friends. Thorium&#x27;s developer here. Happy to answer any questions or give more insights.<p>Thorium Classic has been in development since 2016 and is primarily intended to be used in brick-and-mortar space centers out in Utah, like the Space Place[1] and CMSC[2]. As such, there isn&#x27;t a lot of content and documentation to get newcomers up-and-running with it.<p>Thorium Nova is currently under development and is intended to be used by a broader audience. It will include much more content, pre-built missions, and more integrated tutorials.<p>The project is open-source, so anyone is welcome to contribute[3] and follow along with the progress of each alpha.<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thespaceplace.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thespaceplace.org</a><p>2: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;spacecenter.alpineschools.org" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;spacecenter.alpineschools.org</a><p>3: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thoriumsim.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;contributing-to-thorium-nova" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thoriumsim.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;contributing-to-thorium-nova</a>
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stuff4benabout 2 years ago
HAH! I did exactly this with my daughters when they were like 8 or 9. Except I just printed out maps on a piece of paper and we used everyday items for the spaceship. I had a golfclub I used to steer the ship, we had walkie talkies that were scanners too when we explored planets, and I think one of them used a collander as a radar. We cozied up in one of their twin beds with the blankets surrounding us. I basically DM&#x27;d the entire thing and they loved it. Weekend mornings while their mom slept in, they&#x27;d say &quot;Daddy, can we play space ship?&quot; and then they&#x27;d go around the house grabbing things to use as controls for it. Such great memories!<p>Edit: forgot to mention, I would have loved to have Thorium when we were playing. But then again, I loved their imagination.
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starkparkerabout 2 years ago
Thorium is great; it&#x27;s closer to a virtual tabletop for starship RPGs than a standalone game, built around creating interactive narratives. That sets it apart from the more straightforward game-style bridge sims, like Artemis[1] and EmptyEpsilon[2], which have scriptable scenarios with narrative elements but have more fundamentally game-focused mechanics.<p>All of these get used in a lot of fun ways for live events beyond their design, too. Thorium&#x27;s &quot;family tree&quot; comes from interactive events at planetariums, and EmptyEpsilon, being open-source with an HTTP API and game-master screen for directly manipulating live game state and pretending to be ships, became a popular front-end for European LARPs.[3]<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.artemisspaceshipbridge.com&#x2F;#&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.artemisspaceshipbridge.com&#x2F;#&#x2F;</a><p>2: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daid.github.io&#x2F;EmptyEpsilon&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;daid.github.io&#x2F;EmptyEpsilon&#x2F;</a><p>3: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.odysseuslarp.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;steering-the-starship-empty-epsilon" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.odysseuslarp.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;steering-the-starship-empt...</a>
caseysoftwareabout 2 years ago
I did one of these at THAT Conference a few years back with a few friends. In our case, we had the main display and then each person had their own console with their area - weapons, nav, engineering, and science - and the captain had to call out commands and make the whole thing work.<p>We walked in thinking it would be fun but almost silly.. and walked out drained because it was intense. You don&#x27;t have time to do anything than monitor your own display and make sure you&#x27;re ready for a variety of things that could happen next.<p>Obviously, there were zero stakes (other than embarrassing yourself) but had a new perspective on what naval battle <i>may</i> be like.<p>If you have the chance to do it - especially in person with the big displays - do it.
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ashton314about 2 years ago
Ah… I&#x27;ve been on that space ship simulator. (Voyager) I sat in that elevated nook—the engineer&#x27;s position, naturally. So much fun. Going to the space center was the most coveted birthday party experience.<p>I was mildly disappointed to learn that the whole thing was not an iron-clad simulator (i.e. everything I did as engineer was just busy work—ship systems could still function if the GM decided they would) but once I got into D&amp;D later as an adult, I appreciated the setup much much more.<p>I&#x27;m going to have to try this out some time…
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dontbesquareabout 2 years ago
This sounds like such an awesome project!<p>&quot;Bridge Simulators, like Thorium Nova, are cooperative live-action role-playing games set in space. Players act out the roles of a spaceship bridge crew, such as communications officer, navigator, or captain. They work together to complete a set of mission objectives.<p>Thorium Nova adds a flight director, who sits behind the scenes to act as a game master, controlling what happens inside the simulation, acting out the roles of aliens the crew encounters, and guiding the crew through the storyline.<p>Many bridge simulators, like Artemis or Empty Epsilon, focus only on arcade action. Thorium Nova attempts to bridge the gap by offering rich stories in a dynamic environment, while staying simple enough for anyone to enjoy among friends in their living room.&quot;
ryanianianabout 2 years ago
I haven&#x27;t played Thorium, but bridge sims are a lot of fun. Especially when playing with colleagues or other engineers. I&#x27;ve found non-tech people can get frustrated and bored with them, but my 70yo non-techie mother is in love with the engineering station of Artemis. It is a lot of work to play the Captain role, and in any event the game is tiring after about an hour.<p>What&#x27;s really fun is having everyone in the room engaged with a central game (played on the big TV in the room) on their own phones&#x2F;computers. Usually group games aren&#x27;t cooperative or interactive to the entire group at once. Jackbox has a few coop BYOD party games, but I really wish this product-space had more options.<p>There&#x27;s also the case of venues having realistic bridge-sims that are kinda like an escape room (in setting&#x2F;biz model). Show up to the set and cooperate to solve the task. This seems to be the use-case for Thorium classic (the predecessor to TFA). I&#x27;ve seen these at flight museums. They&#x27;re a load of fun, but probably rather expensive to setup and run (and still tiring).
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anononautabout 2 years ago
Maaan! Bridge sims like Star Trek, Artemis, and Empty Epsilon have been some of the most fun I&#x27;ve ever had playing games with my friends in my entire life. Mind you, we play it as a drinking game with plenty of space shanty singing and other LARP parodies. As a genre, it has my highest recommendation above all others, but it&#x27;s hard to get it together.
acidburnNSAabout 2 years ago
Looks awesome, congrats to the devs.<p>Sidenote as a nuclear engineer: thanks for messing up all my scouring &quot;news&quot; alerts with that name choice.
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andrecariniabout 2 years ago
I&#x27;m interested but I have no idea what this actually is, after reading the whole page.<p>&gt; You can play it as part of a larger event, or with your friends in your living room.<p>So this is a video game with couch co-op?<p>&gt; part of a larger event<p>There&#x27;s an online mode?<p>&gt; The USS Voyager Mk II<p>Is this a simulator that requires you to be in that room from the picture?<p>---<p>Is this like Space Station 13?
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shaunxcodeabout 2 years ago
My first thought was - this reminds me of the space center I went to when I was a kid! It was in pleasant grove utah and built on mac classics with hypercard for the software! Then I scroll down &quot;Alex started working on starship bridge simulators when he worked at the McAuliffe Space Education Center in Pleasant Grove, Utah&quot;. Small world!
stuntkiteabout 2 years ago
I used to have a pretty sweet Artemis setup. Projector main screen, a central dedicated server and a few tablets. That was really fun. You could get anyone of any age to play. I should set that up again. And I guess make some friends.
bovermyerabout 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve played Artemis before. Thorium&#x27;s promise of a &quot;game master&quot; and a narrative outside of combat sounds interesting.<p>Incidentally, here&#x27;s a link to the latest alpha:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Thorium-Sim&#x2F;thorium-nova&#x2F;releases&#x2F;tag&#x2F;v1.0.0-alpha.9">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Thorium-Sim&#x2F;thorium-nova&#x2F;releases&#x2F;tag&#x2F;v1....</a>
huevosabioabout 2 years ago
I would love this with the setup of the Expanse and somehow combined with the combat of Children of a Dead Earth.
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surfsvammelabout 2 years ago
I truly hope this project live long and prosper. (And I am saying that honestly, not trying to be Reddit-isch)
WFHRenaissanceabout 2 years ago
NGL this seems like an Ender&#x27;s Game scenario waiting to happen
hubblekeatabout 2 years ago
Hi! I also volunteered at CMSEC, don&#x27;t know if you remember me though. Glad to see you getting good attention on HN.
jshaqawabout 2 years ago
Wow a whole genre of geeky awesome I knew nothing about. This is why I love Hacker News. This looks like a blast.
unixheroabout 2 years ago
Some screenshots and pricing would be nice!
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kjuulhabout 2 years ago
Sounds super fun!<p>Nitpick: the padding on the bullet points are a bit messed up =D
matijashabout 2 years ago
an important question - what did you build Thorium in? How happy are you with it?
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red-iron-pineabout 2 years ago
Kinda reminds me of Highfleet but cleaner