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OpenAI Becomes ClosedAI

214 pointsby Medeaabout 2 years ago

16 comments

the_pwner224about 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve read that the founders did honestly want to make an Open AI company when they started OpenAI, but that business model didn&#x27;t work out (wow, what a surprise) so they were forced to switch to being not-Open. Regardless of whether you believe that, the &quot;Open&quot; part of their name has been extremely misleading for a long time. But the average person doesn&#x27;t know that; they see that the company is called OpenAI and don&#x27;t question the Open part.<p>I&#x27;m not a lawyer and I don&#x27;t know what the law allows regulators to do, but I wouldn&#x27;t mind if the government forced ClosedAI to change its name under some sort of truth in advertising law.<p>More importantly, we tech folks have specialized knowledge and it&#x27;s our responsibility to not propagate harmful, deceptive propaganda like the OpenAI name. Especially for something as widely known and culturally relevant as ClosedAI. I&#x27;ve personally been calling it ClosedAI for a while now. When people ask I give them a quick 5 second explanation.<p>Another example, much less bad than ClosedAI, is &quot;iPhone.&quot; It&#x27;s not your phone, you don&#x27;t control it. Apple can run and inject whatever code they want onto your (&quot;i&quot;) Phone, and you can&#x27;t make the phone run software which isn&#x27;t approved by Apple. I personally refer to it as an ApplePhone (and ApplePad, Apple Mobile OS instead of iOS, etc.). I&#x27;ll admit this is a pretty weak example; the name clearly has non-nefarious origins. But in the modern day, at a subtle psychological level, it&#x27;s still misleading in an Orwellian sort of way. And it brings up a good opportunity to give &quot;normal&quot; people a quick 15-second intro to software freedom.
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fparlaneabout 2 years ago
closedai.us redirects to <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vice.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;article&#x2F;5d3naz&#x2F;openai-is-now-everything-it-promised-not-to-be-corporate-closed-source-and-for-profit" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vice.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;article&#x2F;5d3naz&#x2F;openai-is-now-everyth...</a><p>This is a clever piece of marketing by Vice!
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usr1106about 2 years ago
Becomes? It has always be a horrible branding. Like if Shell or competitors called themselves carbonfree. An insult to everyone working on open software.<p>But of course the page is fake&#x2F;parody, so the misattribution continues. Well, it fits well to the Microsoft we knew 10-20 years ago.
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super_linearabout 2 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;closedai">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;closedai</a><p>&gt; This organization has no public repositories.<p>A nice touch
randyrandabout 2 years ago
My sarcasm detector is usually better than most, but there is no way a sarcasm seeking person can tell if this is fact or fiction. Renaming OpenAI to ClosedAI actually makes sense, given they are not open.<p>If this is parody, I think there is a good chance it&#x27;s libel.<p>Edit: I now see every link on the page redirects to the vice article.
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sebastiennightabout 2 years ago
That is a smart troll website and SEO&#x2F;marketing strategy.<p>I think the underlying challenge is not going to be easily solved.<p>If the ChatGPT API is indeed more powerful than `text-davinci-003`, then the predatory pricing creates a ton of incentives towards trust monopoly territory. Why would our apps struggle to put up a BLOOM or GPT-NeoX instance if it ends up more expensive?<p>This is possibly going to be one of the most egregious, hard-to-resist traps of our time.
Mindeyabout 2 years ago
The idea of founding &quot;OpenAI&quot; was: Make AI an extension of human wills in the spirit of liberty, as broadly and evenly distributed as is possible safely. The idea was that if we empower people evenly, any evil people powered by AI would not be able to do a 51% attack on the people empowered by AIs collectively.<p>Now, suppose you &quot;Open&quot; the OpenAI, by giving the information about the model and data, all of that -- the only ones who would empower by that kind of openness -- is the very large corporations and the governments of powerful countries rather than people evenly.<p>So, while distributing the AI power evenly in the society (&quot;democratize AI&quot;) was the original motivation of OpenAI group, and founding it as a non-profit may have motivated researchers and capable engineers join the effort, the reason why it isn&#x27;t staying &quot;open&quot; is simply, because they had not yet figured out how to &quot;Empower people evenly&quot;, rather than empower large governments and corporations through such openness.
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trompabout 2 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openai.com&#x2F;search?q=closedai" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openai.com&#x2F;search?q=closedai</a> reports No results for “closedai”<p>Fun satire?!
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rvzabout 2 years ago
Great parody.<p>Replace OpenAI with &#x27;Microsoft® AI&#x27;. It is still the same and accurate.
kundiabout 2 years ago
At least they finally became transparent about their true intentions
UberFlyabout 2 years ago
Once money rolls in, good intentions roll out. Tale as old as time.
tectonicabout 2 years ago
OpenAI, the clean coal of machine learning.
akagusuabout 2 years ago
This is the expected outcome, it only happened before people were expecting.
jalino23about 2 years ago
fooled me vice!!
yazzkuabout 2 years ago
I thought OpenFraud would have been more fitting. They are a fraud, and openly so about it. Possibly the only thing they are open about.
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Laaasabout 2 years ago
dang: Might want to note it&#x27;s satire in the title.