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This week in KDE: “More Wayland fixes”

90 pointsby TangerineDreamabout 2 years ago

7 comments

veidrabout 2 years ago
This is great. I recently moved to KDE Plasma (on Nobara Linux) after many years of Pop OS, because I recently moved into a new office, and no longer have room to have my Mac and Linux setups side by side, but have to consolidate them in a single seat.<p>There are 4-5 monitor arms and the monitors are a mix of 4K and 8K.<p>AFAIK (and I have tried quite a lot, including the latest of all major distros like Fedora, Ubuttnu, OpenSUSE, etc) KDE Plasma using Wayland is the <i>only</i> way to have a typical &quot;full desktop environment&quot; (like GNOME, KDE, MATE, etc) that supports this kind of multi-monitor setup (where the monitors have significantly different ppi and thus need different scaling factors) and &quot;just work&quot; like Windows does.<p>(BTW even macOS doesn&#x27;t support this well in my experience - it renders the 8K at 6K and downscales that to 4K, and also with all monitors connected, one of them (seemingly random) blanks out for 1 second every few minutes. But I have only tested this on an M1 Max laptop.)<p>Any modern Linux &quot;kinda&quot; works — if you are OK with the 4K monitors being HUGE or the 8K monitors unreadably small. Per-monitor fractional scaling is an iffy thing on Linux, and only KDE + Wayland.<p>It <i>almost</i> works on X11 but just doesn&#x27;t. The usual jank happens when switching monitors via a KVM, or unplugging one or plugging one back in — but then it goes into a &quot;jank loop&quot;.<p>So this is what finally dragged me reluctantly to Wayland. But I&#x27;m grateful to the KDE guys for hammering doggedly on multi-monitor Wayland support lately, because it is literally the only thing I have found that lets me boot up Linux and have all my displays work.<p>I still feel like KDE is a little buggy overall, but not significantly more so than GNOME, which is the only other desktop environment with a similar breadth.<p>P.S. If you want to deal with a desktop that is simpler (yet more DIY and higher maintenance), I think you can make Sway or Hyprland work with arbitrary resolution multi-monitor setups. But it is a lot of work. I mainly use desktop Linux for writing code at my day job, so I hoped to have something I can just install and use right away without tweaking and reading docs (fun as that might be).<p>Pop OS works really well on 8K or 4K, but not both at the same time.
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odirootabout 2 years ago
The new welcome screens are something baffling to me. When I open Kate, a text editor, I immediately want to type my text, not be greeted by options and look for &quot;new file&quot;.
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mnd999about 2 years ago
KDE is genuinely really good now. As fully featured desktop environments go it’s right up there with the commercial offerings.<p>Unfortunately I’ve moved on and I don’t want that anymore. A minimalist tiling desktop like sway or i3 suits me much better. Particularly on a touchpad where dragging windows is a faff.
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Aardwolfabout 2 years ago
For me KDE 3.5 was still the best. But I use cinnamon now, it comes pretty close. Any attempt to try KDE 4 or KDE plasma over the years made me give up quickly again due to annoying issues (like showing a giant volume icon in the center of the screen whenever changing volume with no setting to disable it)
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moffkalastabout 2 years ago
Has the stability improved in recent years? Last I used KDE was 20.04 and while the usability was amazing (with a few minor annoyances and bluetooth not working because of course not) the shutdown menu eventually straight up broke and crashed every time it was opened, so I had to resort to terminal poweroff from that point onward haha.<p>Not a major problem, but I wonder how the hell can something like that even make it into an LTS.
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pentagramaabout 2 years ago
What&#x27;s the difference between KDE and Plasma?
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sprashabout 2 years ago
Since KDE is shipped with build in telemetry now I can&#x27;t recommend it to anyone. Opt-in or not, I&#x27;ve seen this game played before and it never ends well.
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