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Show HN: Lunette – A word processor designed around writing, not formatting

133 pointsby corwinstephenabout 2 years ago

27 comments

vinaypaiabout 2 years ago
I&#x27;m sorry but the home page is a weird screenshot of disjointed paragraphs that tells me nothing about how your product &quot;supports the writing process&quot;. I&#x27;m not even sure what the text being edited is from that page.<p>To be clear, I find the pitch appealing, but the product ???.
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quercusaabout 2 years ago
This seems to be aimed at Scrivener&#x27;s niche. What advantages do you offer?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.literatureandlatte.com&#x2F;scrivener&#x2F;overview" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.literatureandlatte.com&#x2F;scrivener&#x2F;overview</a>
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moron4hireabout 2 years ago
Yes, a word processing app like MS Word is technically more suitable for typesetting than it is for writing. No, that&#x27;s not a major problem.<p>I tried building a similar project some 10 years ago, when &quot;Zen writing tools&quot; were all the rage.<p>Nobody wanted to pay for it. It wasn&#x27;t general purpose enough to be usable by the general public. And novelists (who I was targeting) are poor and cheap. 90% of people who say they are &quot;working on a novel&quot; will never finish it to ever even try to sell it. Of those that do finish, 90% of them won&#x27;t make more than pocket change. For the weirdos who finish and make significant sales, the app they used to write was never a significant problem for them. They usually have an anachronistic approach that has nothing to do with productivity and everything to do with personal taste and comfort (George R. R. Martin famously uses WordStar 4.0 on an MS-DOS system).<p>If you want to make an app for writers, don&#x27;t make it around the writing process. What aspiring authors need, first and foremost, is training on how to finish a manuacript. After that, everything else is a minor annoyance in comparison. But some of the most common areas where people seem to drop the ball so close to the goal line are: not having a good editor, screwing up the typesetting, having dorky cover art, and thinking posting on Twitter once a week counts as marketing.<p>The 90% of dreamers don&#x27;t have what it takes and they know it. They don&#x27;t even invest their time, so they&#x27;re certainly not going to invest their money. Tackle trying to convert more of the 10% of finishers into sellers. That might involve a writing tool as a hook to get people in, but the salable part of the app will probably never be the writing process itself.
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testHNacabout 2 years ago
&quot;We figure if the writing process is fundamentally comprised of two separate parts--ideation and composition--then a word processor designed for writing needs a place for both.&quot;<p>There is also Inspiration before these two. Where I collect myriad info, snippets etc and then when things fall into place ( Ideating ) , I start writing ( Composition ).<p>I recently moved to Obsidian. I like the feel of it for writing, and it seems quite flexible to adapt it to my style.<p>Check it out, can give you some feature ideas.
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dtagamesabout 2 years ago
I&#x27;m curious but that&#x27;s not much of an intro&#x2F;demo.
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pyinstallwoesabout 2 years ago
This is like <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ia.net&#x2F;writer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ia.net&#x2F;writer</a> (my favorite).
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eyelidlessnessabout 2 years ago
I think this is cool, and it might even scratch a writing itch I have with literally just taking notes. Your explanation of what motivated building this sounds a lot more like my experience with note taking than writing any other kind of prose.<p>One nit about the site I haven’t seen addressed yet: overall it’s pretty good on mobile (besides the front page screenshot being too tiny to understand; addressing that is a whole can of worms, but…) the header is breaking the signup button even on my very large phone, and stuff vertical alignment feels weird. You could fix the former, but I’d consider dropping “for free” (it’s a general assumption for most people walking up to a site unless they feel like they’re getting a hard sell) and adjusting styles to fit the content on one line. Definitely look at the vertical alignment though, because it’s gonna look weird regardless of wrapping.
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paultopiaabout 2 years ago
Just FYI, at least on the mobile version of the website there doesn&#x27;t seem to be any way outside of signing up to tell what it actually does.
corwinstephenabout 2 years ago
Hey everyone, I just wanted to say thank you for all the feedback. I&#x27;m slowly working my way through everything and finding it all extremely helpful. I&#x27;ll make sure to document the changes that have been made in response to this discussion.<p>As an aside, I realized when I logged into this account to post that I created my Hackernews account over a decade ago, and scrolling through my post history and coming across the multiple Show HN news posts I&#x27;ve done throughout that time, thinking about the successes and failures I&#x27;ve had with those old projects, and realizing that this community has been here the whole damn time, being as generous and constructive and open-minded as it ever was... that&#x27;s really cool.<p>Thank you everyone for being part of one of the best communities on the entire internet. Y&#x27;all are too good.
dsr_about 2 years ago
Open source? Closed? Web-app only? Locally installable? Privacy policy? Pricing?<p>Would you be happier if it made you money or if a community helped you build it?
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ipcress_fileabout 2 years ago
Feature suggestion: it would be good to have the option to have a note &quot;stick&quot; to a point in the document. I know that that&#x27;s not always what people would want, but I could really see it being useful in certain circumstances.
jyriandabout 2 years ago
Reminds me of <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;essay.app&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;essay.app&#x2F;</a><p>When I opened the app, I instantly started writing -- and that is good. I already have a half of an essay. Didn&#x27;t use the notes feature, though -- I think it doesn&#x27;t work in shorter writings, but is essential in long-form.<p>I have been writing with paper index cards for a while now. I think using paper cards is still superior: you can arrange them in any pattern you want. Many apps try to emulate the &quot;solitaire&quot; side of writing, but I haven&#x27;t found anything comparable to analog, yet.
majouabout 2 years ago
There seems to be a typo on the landing screenshot: lunettee instead of lunette.<p>Looks neat tho.
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thangalinabout 2 years ago
KeenWrite, my free and open-source (R) Markdown editor, has a fair amount of overlap with Lunette. From the other thread comments, here are a few items that KeenWrite has:<p>* Offline editing<p>* Dark mode<p>* Manuscript theme<p>* Separates content from presentation<p>* Automatically curls straight quotes<p>Here&#x27;s a tutorial showing how themes (and variables) work:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=3QpX70O5S30">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=3QpX70O5S30</a><p>I&#x27;ve been dog-fooding the editor for almost eight years to help me write a sci-fi novel. (Alpha readers wanted!)
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corwinstephenabout 2 years ago
BTW ping me for a coupon code to make it free if you want to actually use it!<p>Edit: Forgot no DMs on HN. Use code &quot;beta&quot;!
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hellofeliciaabout 2 years ago
Just wondering, are you aware of a pretty big brand of menstrual products that goes by the same name?
everythingabiliabout 2 years ago
The text is bloody almost invisible which is so bloody annoying. A blacker font? Or a better or bigger one perhaps? Or is it just the colour? The notes are not linked to the text either... (which may or may not be a good idea).
starkparkerabout 2 years ago
No offline editing is a deal-breaker, even for a free tool.
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crispabout 2 years ago
Thought to drop by and mention that you may want to pivot on the name as Lunette is a menstrual cup brand: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lunette.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.lunette.com&#x2F;</a><p>Good luck on the development!
mlokabout 2 years ago
Dark mode is missing. Here&#x27;s a guide to implement it properly : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ryanfeigenbaum.com&#x2F;dark-mode&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ryanfeigenbaum.com&#x2F;dark-mode&#x2F;</a>
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helsinkiandrewabout 2 years ago
I’m not sure I understand why someone wouldn’t use the built in text editor that probably comes with their computer&#x2F;tablet&#x2F;phone over using a web page&#x2F;app - Note Pad, Notes etc?
tony-allanabout 2 years ago
I was delighted to see that the document understands Markdown (for the formatting that you allow)!<p>It recognised URL&#x27;s but they a not clickable. Nice to have clickable links.
ericlsabout 2 years ago
No Privacy policy on sign up...
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aizyuvalabout 2 years ago
I’m on mobile. Seems cool though I’d love to see something more than words..
anotheraccount9about 2 years ago
Uploads document as .docx (only?)
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tpoacherabout 2 years ago
My favourite word processor is html.<p>Being serious here, not even trolling. I&#x27;ve gone through many things, and always come back to writing mostly raw html for my own needs. Occasionally I write a small bash script to automate some stuff, bit that&#x27;s about it.
avx56about 2 years ago
Looks neat!