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Ask HN: What's the incentive for 'Founding Engineers'?

3 pointsby iceman_wabout 2 years ago
I&#x27;m trying to understand the incentive for engineers to join a startup as a &#x27;founding engineer&#x27;. To me it seems like taking on all the risk that a founder takes (pre-pmf, pre-revenue, etc.) but getting a small fraction of the equity that a founder gets. The risk-reward ratio doesn&#x27;t seem to add up.<p>Looking for insights from folks who have been in the startup world.

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trh0awaymanabout 2 years ago
- Total control<p>- Chaotic, energizing environment<p>- Massive payoffs<p>- Low-stakes politics, informal environment<p>- Being around an eclectic group of people<p>You face basically no risk, not in any real sense (like being sued, owing someone money, public embarrassment). You might have opportunity cost, but really only if you&#x27;re a Bogglehead&#x2F;Blind&#x2F;FIRE-type, in which case you probably wouldn&#x27;t pass the culture fit anyway. Someone people thrive in these early environments.<p>It&#x27;s like weighing the pros and cons list of skydiving &quot;Hm... I get only 14 seconds of pleasure for every 2 micromorts? I could get 2 minutes of pleasure from roller coasters for only 0.5 micromorts!&quot; As soon as you bring &quot;risk-reward ratio&quot; into the conversation, you&#x27;ve lost the plot.<p>Watch Halt and Catch Fire (cheesy show, but in a good way), read about the very early SpaceX days when everything was going wrong.
ramn7about 2 years ago
I personally think it makes perfect sense for FULLstack &quot;founding&quot; engineers (that are not expected to become CTOs) to be cofounders with significant equity, assuming of course they&#x27;re joining at a risky phase (saying that as an experienced engineer who&#x27;s both a freelance and solopreneur).<p>Other than that, it&#x27;s all a function of compensation&#x2F;risk, safety, and effort compared to their other options.