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Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

182 pointsby ferrofluidover 13 years ago

38 comments

ohashiover 13 years ago
It struck me as odd that I would want to hire people this way. As far as I can tell everyone is just asking for more money (big surprise, I know) but it says nothing about what they want to do, are interested in, etc. Do I just blindly reach out to a bunch of people and hope they match my needs?
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vyrotekover 13 years ago
I don't know how you did it, but I'm pretty sure you were spying on me. I was literally talking to a friend about this exact idea this weekend. We're trying to hire some developers and wondered if anything like this existed since its becoming very difficult to poach. I almost built the same thing this weekend.<p>Edit - I'm curious. Have you thought about how you will tackle the potential spam problem? Recruiters are going to go crazy over this. We tossed around a few ideas such as charging to contact the individual and making it more expensive based on things the jobseeker could do. Those things might be paying to have JobPoacher contact referrals, coding tests, etc.<p>Good luck with everything.
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damon_cover 13 years ago
I got contacted by a recruiter within 20 minutes of posting.<p>Suddenly, I'm thinking that it IS kind of strange that if I reply to their email, I will be beginning a relationship with someone who already knows my approximate salary.<p>On the plus side, they contacted me knowing that information full well. No nonsense with lowballing. Maybe it's a great starting point!
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rfreyover 13 years ago
Wow, I can't believe how quickly this site activated my inner voyeur.<p><i>I'm a CTO (Rails), and I currently make $20,000 in San Francisco. I'm ONLY interested in jobs as a Rails Engineer that pay at least $100,000 in The Bay Area.</i>
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jonnathansonover 13 years ago
The "Poachees" listings should be searchable and sortable if they're to be of real value to would-be recruiters or hiring managers.
illumin8over 13 years ago
I hope you can keep out the script kiddies - I just saw one of these:<p>I'm a &#60;script&#62;alert('lulz')&#60;/script&#62;, and I currently make $40,000 in &#60;script&#62;alert('lulz')&#60;/script&#62;. I'm ONLY interested in jobs as a &#60;script&#62;alert('lulz')&#60;/script&#62; that pay at least $120,000 in &#60;script&#62;alert('lulz')&#60;/script&#62;.
rchover 13 years ago
This is nice, but could you add an option to indicate that I only want to deal technically proficient people?<p>In fact, I would pay a few bucks up-front if you could somehow assure that I would only be put in contact with technical people that actually work for the company doing the hiring (no recruiters at all). And I'd pay to validate that I satisfy that requirement from the hiring side as well.
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dan_yallover 13 years ago
I hope this results in some "Piña Colada Song" situations where employers end up contacting their own employees.
gte910hover 13 years ago
Why would people disclose the current salary they have?
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sownover 13 years ago
Minor bug report:<p>I tried to fill it out with the 'links' browser. I didn't see the captcha so I did not get a confirmation email but the app did seem to retain my email address so I cannot delete the old one to resubmit when I use a GUI browser.<p>As an aside, I really like this because of how people don't talk about how much they make. When I see someone makes $164000 as a pen tester in Mountain View and I make a smaller amount, I feel like I could be working on interesting problems <i>and</i> make a bit more coin. oh, well. :(<p>Minor suggestion: I wonder how much other people like my ad? Perhaps that's part of the mystery. That info, perhaps shouldn't be available to poachees but only poachers? I dunno.
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bluedevil2kover 13 years ago
This is really awesome, so awesome I think that you should think about how to monetize it and make some serious money. (I know that's seemingly against the "hacker ethos", but it's not often that you think of million-dollar ideas).
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elliottcarlsonover 13 years ago
The most important feature is listing by locality IMHO. Without being able to filter out candidates to where I am, it would be easy to miss them, especially when having to search for variations (NY, New York, Manhattan).<p>I see in a comment you will be adding a search field which would help with the above; however the variations could still be an issue. A simple helper could be a predictable typing field for the location that allows people to select already existing locations so that there is consistency?<p>Good job otherwise!
araneaeover 13 years ago
I wish it allowed you enter an hourly wage, since that's what I make.<p>I could annualize it but I don't actually work full time so that wouldn't be accurate.
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noobfaceover 13 years ago
After posting and reading all the other listings. I've realized I'm one of the few hardware guys on HN.<p>Any other hardware/low-level guys out there?
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SoftwareMavenover 13 years ago
It really needs a small "experience" section. It should be small, so a recruiter can still scan; but I really want to be able to differentiate at least between junior and senior people.<p>I also would like to have an "interest". I don't want to contact somebody wanting to do games for my web startup. That just wastes both our time.
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joedevover 13 years ago
If a hiring company were look at this they'll naturally see the "I currently make" amount and consider that market rate. After all, it matters not what people want to make, but instead by the amount for which people have demonstrated that they are willing to work.
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rg81over 13 years ago
The recruiter that got back to me was more direct and less spammy than other random recruiting emails I get from those who see my profile on linkedin etc. I'm wondering if this is an accident or a change in the way the recruiter views these postings.
samstaveover 13 years ago
I find it odd that people would put such a wide discrepency between current and desired salary.<p>If you are making 30K, as a webdeveloper and are seeking 60K as a web developer, I dont see why anyone would read this and think "Hey, here's a guy who wants double what he is making now, lets go get him"<p>Like the manager in UAE who states 130K current and 180K desired.<p>50K is a lot, even though its a smaller % than the 100% - Why do these people feel that if they are worth twice what they are making now, that advertising via this site is a good idea.<p>Maybe I'm confused?<p>Like this one:<p>"I'm a Generalist, and I currently make $120,000 in San Francisco. I'm ONLY interested in jobs as a Generalist that pay at least $140,000 in San Francisco."<p>This tells me absolutely nothing.
jason_shahover 13 years ago
Cool idea.<p>Small UI suggestions (realizing this was just a hack) - 1. Add some margin-left to the copyright notice at the bottom 2. Autocomplete on the cities (and other fields, like Occupation) will help standardize your dataset for search and sort later
samstaveover 13 years ago
This one is funny though:<p>"I'm a Very Unhappy Facebook User, and I currently make $10,001 in creating Facebook's content. I'm ONLY interested in jobs as a Happy Facebook User that pay at least $10,002 in creating awesome content."
v33raover 13 years ago
Feature request: What happens when there are hundreds of listings? Would people be reading all those listings line by line?<p>A search box with filters for each input data you are collecting would be a nice fit.
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chealdover 13 years ago
I like this, because it's difficult to get honest numbers about salary for a given position/location. Entirely apart from the "job seeking" part of the equation, the raw data is very interesting to me.<p>There will be a fake/fudge factor to account for, but it's so hard to get people to talk about their salaries honestly that it's very interesting to see some raw data there.
joshaidanover 13 years ago
I like the idea. A nice start to something I'm sure will grow into something pretty neat.
sakopovover 13 years ago
It's an interesting idea, but pretty much unusable at this point. Definitely needs filtering, searching and a better UI with clean separation of submissions (think StackOverflow).
rpledgeover 13 years ago
Interesting idea. I'd like to see some stats when you get enough data, stuff like number of responses, number of people who found a job through the service, etc....
danbergerover 13 years ago
One of the unintended uses for this tool is for founders to figure out what the competitive market salary is for positions they're trying to fill.
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zekelover 13 years ago
Suggestions:<p>-Filter by job, location, salary (as suggested by others)<p>-RSS<p>-A "find other poachees" like this one button. (Could use ranges with the filter feature to make it even more convenient.)
benvanderbeekover 13 years ago
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ilcaveroover 13 years ago
how are you going to avoid head hunters' spam, either as fake candidates to discover new clients or with fake offers for CV mining?
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zeratulover 13 years ago
Maybe instead of "and I currently make ___" you should have "and I have ___ years experience in ____". Or at least have both.
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famover 13 years ago
The footer would better if centered or placed inside the 940 grid (rather than stick to the left with 0 margin) - IMO.
johnbenderover 13 years ago
Any chance we could see a freelance/contract version of the form? About the only difference would be $/hr support.
benharrisonover 13 years ago
I think a great feature for this would be a map to visualize the results in your area.
functionformover 13 years ago
Whoa, this is a scary good idea. Wondering if I should post tonight. I feel dirty!
edncover 13 years ago
nice. Where are you getting the recruiting traffic from?
dpsover 13 years ago
Do you have plans for how to get rid of spam?
PaulAnundaover 13 years ago
op, i just reserved @jobposter for you on twitter. email me and i'll transfer ownership to you.
playhardover 13 years ago
twitter bootstrap?