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Ask HN: Are there any search engines without AI?

19 pointsby ochristabout 2 years ago
Many search engines are now engaging in using AI to enhance their search, but are there still any general purpose search engines that are not using AI?<p>I have of course tried to search for this, but if you include the word &#x27;AI&#x27; in a search, most search engines believe you are in fact searching for AI.

12 comments

antegamisouabout 2 years ago
Closest I can think of:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.marginalia.nu&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;search.marginalia.nu&#x2F;</a><p>From the homepage:<p><pre><code> This search engine isn&#x27;t particularly well equipped to answering queries posed like questions, instead try to imagine some text that might appear in the website you are looking for, and search for that. Where this search engine really shines is finding small, old and obscure websites about some given topic, perhaps old video games, a mystery, theology, the occult, knitting, computer science, or art.</code></pre>
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welfareabout 2 years ago
I believe you have to be more specific what kind of AI you refer to.<p>Machine Learning algorithms, which include some really straight-forward ones like decision trees, linear regression, support vector machines, etc. are pretty ubiquitous.<p>If you mean generative AI models (e.g. what powers ChatGPT, Dall-E, etc.) then it&#x27;s a different story.
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ketzuabout 2 years ago
What form of &quot;AI&quot; are you looking to avoid?<p>Do you want to avoid the company engaging with AI? (Maybe because you don&#x27;t want your searches being used as training.)<p>Do you want to avoid LLMs answering your search? I have not seen that widely adopted at all.<p>Depending on what you consider &quot;AI&quot; the answer might range from all of them to none of them are using AI.
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andyjohnson0about 2 years ago
Check out Kagi [1]. I&#x27;ve been using it since Jan 2022 and am very happy with it. They have AI tools for document summarising etc but the core search seems to be free of obvious AI intrusions, as well as being ad-free and privacy-respecting.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagi.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagi.com</a>
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ErikHuismanabout 2 years ago
Maybe search for &quot;how do search engines work&quot;
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calme_toiabout 2 years ago
For me, it’s ask questions in r&#x2F;ask Reddit or r&#x2F;eli5 if you are not in a hurry of getting the answers.<p>Asking questions in forums has been a habit I picked up recently.<p>The process of writing it down and describing it to other people really helps a lot than I expected.
theususabout 2 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.startpage.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.startpage.com&#x2F;</a> doesn&#x27;t use AI currently. And it proxies Google search results.
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toxicForkabout 2 years ago
May I ask: why?
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netdurabout 2 years ago
technically, there is no search engine powered by AI
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ameliusabout 2 years ago
Umm, grep?<p>To use it you have to crawl the web first though.
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visargaabout 2 years ago
grep, if you consider regexes not AI
yawnxyzabout 2 years ago
would you consider page rank AI?
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