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$50,000 to keep Symantec source code private

89 pointsby tonyriceover 13 years ago

21 comments

nlhover 13 years ago
I feel like episodes like this give Anonymous a bad name...[ sic ;) ]....not that their name/reputation is so stellar in the first place.<p>But this isn't Hacktivism or whatnot. This is pure outright theft and extortion. It's not "fight the man" or "prevent censorship" or even WikiLeaks-style "information wants to be free".<p>It's profit-motivated organized crime syndicates trying to extract some $$ from a company. They hacked Symantec because the virus-writers of the world want to be able to write more viruses so they can infect more machines and create more botnets and send more spam and/or do more phishing...and make more money. That's it.<p>It's frustrating because part of the problem with a group like Anonymous is that you don't get to declare who is and who isn't a part (by definition).<p>I suppose human nature is human nature - in the real world or online, the same scenarios play out time and time again....
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darxiusover 13 years ago
The source was leaked last night: <a href="http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7014253/Symantec_s_pcAnywhere_Leaked_Source_Code" rel="nofollow">http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7014253/Symantec_s_pcAnywhere...</a><p>Has anyone heard of an official response from Symantec?
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djtriptychover 13 years ago
So what's the legal environment around downloading the now-leaked source? I have to say I'm pretty curious about the code quality and possible backdoors...<p>Are there even protections for the press in this case? Or is every who pulls this torrent guilty of receiving stolen property or something along those lines.<p>Excuse my ignorance, but frankly I'd like to poke around.
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DanielStraightover 13 years ago
According to this source, Symantec's reply was law enforcement posing as Symantec:<p><a href="http://blogs.computerworld.com/19695/antisec_leaks_symantec_pcanywhere_source_code_after_50k_extortion_not_paid" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.computerworld.com/19695/antisec_leaks_symantec_...</a>
drcubeover 13 years ago
I know nothing about antivirus software, but isn't security software supposed to be open? Otherwise, it's just security through obscurity. It sounds to me like Symantec just wants to hide all their vulnerabilities.
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feralchimpover 13 years ago
AnonymousFlorida's side of the story:<p>- in 2006, anon members steal Symantec source for the lulz<p>- Symantec contacts the FBI and sets up a pretty transparent attempt to sting those responsible<p>- Anonymous punishes Symantec for the sting attempt, after some internal debate, by releasing the source as a torrent<p>Has the ring of truth to it, IMHO.
rdtscover 13 years ago
This will set a bad precedent for such things (unless it is orchestrated as a sting operation).<p>If genuine, it would be interesting to know the primary motivation -- does Symantec not want the world to see its source because it is afraid its competition will steal its ideas ("our source code is full of awesome ideas") or its source code is pretty bad, sloppy, with backdoors for Uncle Sam that will pretty much shame the company ("our source code is awful and we'll be embarrassed if it was revealed").
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driverdanover 13 years ago
5 year old code poses a security threat to PCAnywhere users? All the more reason to not use any of their products. Source code should never pose a security risk.
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joedevover 13 years ago
@AnonymousFlorida says "Anonymous NEVER asked for money"<p>Really?<p>"How much do you consider ENOUGH to pay us in order to work all the issues out"<p>"we shall give you our account number within the LR system and you send money from your LR acct to ours"<p>Considering these snippets from the email exchange, what am I not understanding about the claim that they did not ask for money?
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zalewover 13 years ago
<a href="http://hackerne.ws/item?id=3560533" rel="nofollow">http://hackerne.ws/item?id=3560533</a> original submission, not zdnetted
bravuraover 13 years ago
<i>Yamatough demanded that Symantec transfer the money via Liberty Reserve, a payment processor based in San Jose, Costa Rica. But Thomas appears reluctant, calling it "more complicated than we expected." Thomas instead suggests using PayPal to transmit a $1,000 test as "a sign of good faith." Yamatough rejects that offer, saying, "Do not send us any money (we do not use paypal period)</i><p>Could someone comment on how it is possible to use Liberty Reserve to receive money anonymously?<p>The stakes are really high for getting caught, and receiving the money is the weakest point for the hackers. So I'm curious why Liberty Reserve is the payment processor of choice for these cyber-criminals.
Ctech237over 13 years ago
At this point Symantec has probably come to the conclusion that their source code is compromised. I don't think it’s possible for them to assume that anon won't use the source for themselves. The whole thing is a sting operation. If it wasn’t then Symantec’s future is dependent on an agreement that has no way of being verified. Anon probably knows this too and there just having a laugh.
chrisledetover 13 years ago
Just $50k?
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aledalgrandeover 13 years ago
Anonymous say it was Symantec trying to bribe them.<p><a href="https://twitter.com/#!/YourAnonNews/status/166898121341804544" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/#!/YourAnonNews/status/16689812134180454...</a>
mrlinxover 13 years ago
How is blackmailing to not release data something Anonymous would want?
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jshowaover 13 years ago
Has anyone on here even looked at the source code?
danvideoover 13 years ago
one of the article's comments links to pastebin that appears to be the source code already posted - as of last night
Tichyover 13 years ago
Is the code so embarrassing? If I wouldn't avoid them already, I would do so now.
recursiveover 13 years ago
This makes Symantec look a lot worse than "Anonymous" IMO. Symantec is supposedly a reputable computer software company. The fact that they have to resort to legal means to secure their own source code is not a positive indication that they do a good job.
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stef25over 13 years ago
How did the source code end up on servers not belonging to Symantec?
robomartinover 13 years ago
These people need to be found and they need to go to jail for a very, very long time. The best possible response from the hacker community is to help dig these people out of their caves and turn them in.<p>Why?<p>Because this represents yet one more step towards the criminalization of the Internet. And this provides yet more fuel for politicians to get behind nonsense like SOPA. Keep this up and the Internet as you know it today will not be for long. There is no possible good outcome from these kinds of actions.<p>Either we police our own ranks or they will do it for us. The difference is that politicians will use a sledge-hammer for surgery rather than a scalpel. Be the scalpel.
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