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Results of Joel Spolsky's "What Programmers Want" Survey

114 pointsby brianwillisover 13 years ago

20 comments

cascaover 13 years ago
One thing that programmers like are decently formatted reports that present the information in a meaningful and elegant manner.<p>Sadly this is none of those things.
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fragsworthover 13 years ago
It's somewhat unfortunate that there's no breakdown between the different levels of experience.<p>That is to say, those with 12+ years of experience probably have very different views of what is important to them in a workplace than those with 1-2 years of experience. The data for the survey should allow us see this breakdown, right?
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nodover 13 years ago
Pie charts for comparison?! Here, I made you some bar charts instead: <a href="http://public.tableausoftware.com/views/wpw/Country" rel="nofollow">http://public.tableausoftware.com/views/wpw/Country</a><p>Thanks to gavinballard for the CSV link.<p>If you want to see different breakdowns, just download the workbook/software and play with it yourself.
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semisightover 13 years ago
I think the most interesting question is not what the "average" programmer (this study is likely skewed) whats, but what they're willing to do to get it. That 93% would take a significant cut to work somewhere is better is staggering to me (although I'd do the same). Money certainly does not buy happiness.
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thieleover 13 years ago
The lack of interest in "Stock Options/Profit Sharing Program" should be a sobering reality for business people looking for technical co-founders/employees.
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larsbergover 13 years ago
I found the "would you take a 10% paycut" matched my experience precisely. Back when I worked at Microsoft on developer tools, I would sometimes get contacted by people who were in the finance industry with salaries 2-4x what we could offer, and often transitioning from some nice CTO/Chief Head Architect title to Software Design Engineer.<p>But, universally, they were _excited_ for the opportunity to work on real compilers, tools, etc. and especially to be surrounded by people they could learn from. I'm would expect the lurking Google hiring managers have experienced the same thing.
drcubeover 13 years ago
This would be a lot better without pie charts.
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darxiusover 13 years ago
If an employer were to take anything away from this survey, I'd say it should be the last question. Way too often have I been interviewed by monotonous and unorganized people who misrepresent an otherwise great position.<p>Please. When performing interviews, try and get people who both like what they're doing and are organized.
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gavinballardover 13 years ago
The raw data is available here: <a href="http://s.tk/wpwraw" rel="nofollow">http://s.tk/wpwraw</a>
sambeauover 13 years ago
I suspect many managers, if they ever see this report, would only take-away: programmers don't care about money and stock options.<p>I know some of my past managers would (and they would use it as an excuse to justify not upgrading dev machines so often). Unsurprisingly none of them would ever read it as it isn't in the form of a management guru book.
philgo20over 13 years ago
After reading about Joel Spolsky "What Programmers Want" survey, I thought it'd be interesting to know how programmers feel about their current employer.<p>Fill up the 3 questions survey, it really takes 3 minues <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEx6LUNRWHZHWHRBTmxGcEtIM05IeWc6MQ" rel="nofollow">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEx6LUN...</a><p>Thank you already for taking the time, we'll publish the result on matchFWD blog at <a href="http://blog.matchfwd.com" rel="nofollow">http://blog.matchfwd.com</a> as soon as we have significant data.
vectorjohnover 13 years ago
I wish that benefits and perhaps vacation related questions were on here. Next time I look for a job, a sane amount of vacation is something I am going to demand, and I think I would sacrifice significant salary to get it.
alexholehouseover 13 years ago
I'm shocked at how many people are in start ups - does that perhaps reflect the fact that if your a start up you're typically building your own tools from scratch in areas you're less familiar with, so perhaps need access to experts you don't have locally (i.e. in your company)?
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wistyover 13 years ago
"Good management" wasn't on the list?
ck2over 13 years ago
Easy browser viewing <a href="https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://blog.stackoverflow.com/wp-content/uploads/WPW-Summary.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://blog.stackoverflow....</a>
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ricardobeatover 13 years ago
I hate being in the "other" slice. Look at it.
willvarfarover 13 years ago
I like pie-charts, but I wish that those who did not respond were shown as a missing slice.
jalopezpover 13 years ago
I noticed 49 people currently work for a company whose size is 'other'. What's this about?
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egillieover 13 years ago
Wait, where's "food"?
mjwalsheover 13 years ago
Interesting there is no mention of Pensions