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Mysteries of the Griffin iMate

109 pointsby serhack_about 2 years ago

10 comments

levicoleabout 2 years ago
I worked at Griffin for a short period of time while we were still selling this. I was in tech support, and I didn't even know about the battery.
atommclainabout 2 years ago
&quot;Worse, I&#x27;m already kind of dissatisfied with the iMate - it doesn&#x27;t distinguish left and right for Alt&#x2F;Shift&#x2F;etc.&quot;<p>This may be a limitation of the keyboard itself. I remember looking into low level keyboard remapping over a decade ago in OS X (via ~&#x2F;Library&#x2F;Keyboards), and I have a vague memory of reading what was at the time an ancient piece of Apple reference material that some keyboards do not distinguish between left and right modifier keys.
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rvenseabout 2 years ago
I use an iMate to connect my Extended II to my Powermac G4. I recently replaced the battery to be able to turn on the computer. I appreciate the traces, but I actually thought this was all well known. I use the G4 every day to make music and for recreational programming. I&#x27;ve also got an older Powermac which I enjoyed more precisely because of the Extended II[0], but the G4 is much faster so getting the iMate working was great.<p>Also, on Mac OS 9, the iMate doesn&#x27;t just allow the use of ADB keyboards, but as far as I know actually acts as a proper ADB bridge, so dongles, modems[1] and other ADB peripherals work as well.<p>[0] It&#x27;s like having sunshine in your fingers! [1] Yes, there were a few ADB modems, and yes, they were slow.
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jxdxbxabout 2 years ago
I have an iMate (admittedly I haven&#x27;t hooked up my Apple Extended II in a few years), but I think the writing is on the wall. I ended up buying a modern adapter from some site called tinkerBOY but I just realized I never even tried it yet.<p>Personally, for me, the primary attraction is the feel of the old Alps switches. I don&#x27;t want to dedicate my desk to some battleship (ok nerds, I know that &quot;battleship&quot; keyboards are even bigger). And I can get that from modern switches in a more manageable chassis. I currently have the &quot;Zilent&quot; switches from Zelio which give me good tactility without too much clickiness.
cduzzabout 2 years ago
Regarding the astonishing flexibility of USB -- I&#x27;ve got a 1994 vintage keyboard &#x2F; mouse combo (lexmark&#x2F;IBM M4-1, compact keyboard + trackpoint) -- I use it regularly using a USB to PS&#x2F;2 adapter connected to a kvm switch built into a 2010 vintage monitor (usb 2) that&#x27;s connected to a USB-C hub attached to a 2020 macbook&#x27;s USB-C and a surface pro&#x27;s port replicator. Once a week when switching inputs or waking up something gets in a state where I have to unplug the keyboard and plug it back in (IBM&#x27;s typical over-engineering means there&#x27;s a wacky plug on the keyboard so it&#x27;s easy to get to). But, &quot;1994 -&gt; 2000 (ps2-&gt;usb) -&gt; 2010 (monitor) -&gt; 2020 (macbook)&quot; is a pretty broad stack and it works almost perfectly.<p>I think these are the wacky keyboards where they had the &quot;D&quot; and &quot;K&quot; keys marked with a nub to indicate home keys. Drove me crazy enough that I&#x27;d deface them by shaving off the original nub and put a &quot;proper&quot; ridge into the f and j keys.
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Cockbrandabout 2 years ago
I tend to switch every few weeks between Apple&#x27;s current wireless keyboard and the Extended Keyboard II with an iMate attached. I&#x27;ve had the iMate for about 25 years, and I&#x27;ve also been wondering about the battery. Thanks to the author for finding out what it&#x27;s for! I do have the same gripe as the author regarding the iMate not distinguishing between left and right modifier keys, though. Anyhow, after all those years, it&#x27;s indeed amazing how the whole ancient setup still works flawlessly with my current ARM Mac.
rideontimeabout 2 years ago
Just get yourself a teensy and use this thing: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;tmk&#x2F;tmk_keyboard&#x2F;tree&#x2F;master&#x2F;converter&#x2F;adb_usb">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;tmk&#x2F;tmk_keyboard&#x2F;tree&#x2F;master&#x2F;converter&#x2F;ad...</a>
markragesabout 2 years ago
I seem to remember depletion-node FETs were available in the late 90s, which could have solved this problem in a more elegant way than a &quot;lifetime&quot; battery.
silversidesabout 2 years ago
I&#x27;ve had an excellent experience with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.drakware.com&#x2F;shop&#x2F;p&#x2F;adb2usb" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.drakware.com&#x2F;shop&#x2F;p&#x2F;adb2usb</a> for a while now, I daily an M5301 at home and an M0116 in office.
lprovenabout 2 years ago
I have 2 iMates and use one to connect an AEK2 to my 27&quot; Retina iMac. Not seen the problem...<p>... yet.