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The EARN IT bill is back. We've killed it twice, let's do it again

354 pointsby grammersabout 2 years ago

17 comments

supriyo-biswasabout 2 years ago
Perhaps exhausting the public by repeatedly bringing in the same bill is part of legislators’ bag of tricks to force-feed undesirable legislation to their citizens.
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chiiabout 2 years ago
There should be a law that prevents bills that get shot down from being reintroduced in X years, and also to disallow the same person&#x2F;group&#x2F;party from reintroducing it (i.e., it has to come from another person&#x2F;party).<p>Like double jeopardy style.
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slekkerabout 2 years ago
If a bill was rejected it should have some kind of exponential backoff that wouldn&#x27;t allow it to be brought up, otherwise fatigue ensues and it will pass at some point.
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TheRealDunkirkabout 2 years ago
They tried to implement an &quot;internet kill switch&quot; in 2010. People rallied, and it was dropped. Then Obama signed an Executive Order in 2012 that basically gave him the ability to do it anyway. The deep state gets what the deep state wants, and they WILL eventually make some sort of law or regulation to criminalize encryption for which they have no backdoor.
1a_userabout 2 years ago
Why do American laws have such stupid names?<p>I live in the UK, and the similar law is called the Digital Economy Act, and specific regulations would be named something like the Adult Content (Access by Minors) Regulations<p>Why do American lawmakers feel the need to make ridiculous acronyms for their laws? It&#x27;s genuinely baffling. All it does is make it look like they&#x27;re not taking it seriously.
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irusenseiabout 2 years ago
Ok so we need to make another effort and dedicate time, money and mental health to stop another attempt from people who are literally being paid a very good salary to push shit like this.
LocalHabout 2 years ago
The US government needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. Problem is, how do you do that outside of violent revolution? You can&#x27;t, really. Therefore, there is no answer, and we&#x27;re all fucked.<p>This is game theory at work, with the highest possible stakes. So far, the powers that be have stacked the game in their favor. The world moves a lot faster than the legal system can keep up. When they <i>do</i> try to give the appearance of keeping up, they propose garbage bills like these, with these cutesy acronym names that obscure the actual purpose of the bill. It should be <i>illegal</i> to create a bill with an acronymic name. Any acronym a bill&#x27;s name happens to create should be consonant soup. Even that would not be a full defense against this dirty tactic, because they&#x27;d just be like everyone else - they&#x27;d make bills with consonant soup titles, but they&#x27;d be words without vowels, and everybody would parse the words in the title anyway (how about that PTRT act?).<p>There is no solution that is feasible to implement, because too many agents are invested in the way things work <i>now</i>, because they personally benefit along the way. Congress should be an hourly job. Pay them <i>well</i> per hour, so they don&#x27;t need to seek external compensation (and thus provide the possibility that they can be manipulated through that compensation), but only pay them for time when their asses are actually seated, or for time that they can <i>document</i> that they spent working on bills and communicating with constituents. Full transparency for the actions of the members of Congress is paramount, the way I see it.<p>It&#x27;s almost like trying to &quot;control&quot; society is a fool&#x27;s errand, and in the long term it will end up being hugely detrimental to both humans, and the Earth itself. We, as a collective species, have already decided that natural evolution should not apply to humans, we&#x27;ve already decided that humans are &quot;separate&quot; from nature. We fight against our connection to this planet, instead choosing to rape and pillage it. One day our actions will catch up to us collectively, but very few of the ones who were instrumental in making things this way will receive their comeuppance (hell, some of them are already dead now).
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explorer83about 2 years ago
I support protecting children but it&#x27;s amazing how individual liberties are targeted in the name of the cause.
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DoctorOWabout 2 years ago
Not about the article itself, but the &quot;Share to Mastodon&quot; link uses a protocol I&#x27;m not familiar with, and it doesn&#x27;t work in my browser. Is there a certain extension or server configuration expected of me?
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streakfixabout 2 years ago
The wikipedia page[1] mentions surveillance only in the &#x27;technical implications&#x27; secion. Can someone explain how this act can be used to include backdoors in social media platforms?
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uguuo_oabout 2 years ago
It seems like no matter how many times a bill gets shut down, it can just be re-introduced until it passes. I guess pretty soon the mode of operation of Congress will be the &quot;we need to pass it to find out what’s in it&quot; and not even bother with public opinion.
Kim_Bruningabout 2 years ago
I guess the way to stop these kinds of proposals would either be a positive right-to-encryption law, and&#x2F;or a constitutional amendment?
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booleandilemmaabout 2 years ago
Isn&#x27;t our government supposed to work for us? Of the people, by the people, and for the people?<p>Does something need to be fixed?
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sputrabout 2 years ago
You will lose sooner or later. They have an unlimited amount of money, time, and patience.<p>The only solution is to proactively pass regulation of the same issue, but in a way that&#x27;s acceptable to [insert group] and that is in direct opposition to the currently proposed changes. This moves the Overton window, making the now “radical” change politically much more expensive.
kazinatorabout 2 years ago
Just get rid of the twits who dredge up bad bills?<p>At some point, treat the root cause, not the symptom.
bvxcvabout 2 years ago
Trump as president had one distinctive advantage, there was a functioning opposition. Now many oppressive or foolish propositions have bipartisan support:<p><i>When EARN IT was first introduced in 2020, there was immense public opposition to the draft law:<p>&quot;This terrible legislation is a Trojan horse to give Attorney General Barr and [President] Donald Trump the power to control online speech and require government access to every aspect of Americans&#x27; lives,&quot; Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said.</i>
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nottorpabout 2 years ago
Hmm so tutanota is subject to US law.
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