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Bluesky Is a Scam

77 pointsby whoisninjaabout 2 years ago

13 comments

wmfabout 2 years ago
This is... the least charitable possible interpretation of the current state of Bluesky and the AT Protocol. It&#x27;s not wrong, but it&#x27;s not clear that it will be right either.<p>Personally I would have preferred if they implemented federation before going into beta because that is the whole point of a decentralized network. But OTOH there is an opportunity <i>right now</i> to lure people away from Twitter and that opportunity may not exist in a few months. I don&#x27;t think progressive decentralization, over a span of months not years, is inherently evil.
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threeseedabout 2 years ago
&gt; because of that they are tricking a lot of people into using them<p>This may come as a surprise.<p>But your average cool, interesting person doesn&#x27;t care whether Bluesky has a decentralised protocol or the intricacies of its identity model.<p>The reason most people are using it is because it&#x27;s the closest thing to a Musk-less Twitter.
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cxrabout 2 years ago
The solution to the problem of centralization that Bluesky has been touted as tackling (and that Mastodon doesn&#x27;t deal with in a satisfactory way) doesn&#x27;t look anything like Bluesky or Twitter or Mastodon. Instead, it&#x27;s just making RSS (read: Atom) suck less.<p>Crazy that no one in the relevant circles seems to have realized that microblog posts don&#x27;t require anything more sophisticated than what a static site generator can produce. The heavyweight server-to-server protocols that we&#x27;ve seen are just way too heavy.
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camgunzabout 2 years ago
Bluesky&#x27;s innovation over Twitter is to try and free itself from onerous regulation and scrutiny by governments. Their defense, over and over again, will be &quot;just run &#x27;govsky&#x27;&quot;, &quot;just run &#x27;chinasky&#x27;&quot;, &quot;we can&#x27;t censor you, no need to start Truth Social (lol), also no need to give us super burdensome regulatory requirements.&quot;<p>They&#x27;re doing things a little backwards, building a gmail before there&#x27;s a big SMTP network out there, but that&#x27;s smart. The default state of this positioning now is that they&#x27;ll slowly drain Twitter of their attention capital ( this is on purpose; their UX is the Twitter UX) so Elon has to respond somehow.
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kyledrakeabout 2 years ago
Very cool and very normal to crank off about decentralization&#x2F;moderation and then have people in the author&#x27;s comments section threatening people with violence. It&#x27;s almost as if there are a lot of intricacies around making these networks work well for people and there&#x27;s more problems to be solved than just raw unmoderated decentralization if you want to foster a healthy community that doesn&#x27;t devolve into a tiny fraction of the worst people on earth.
iso8859-1about 2 years ago
note that fiatjaf is the creator of nostr, which is a competing product
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evbogueabout 2 years ago
&gt; The DID itself is derived from the sha256 hash of the first operation in the log. It is then base32 encoded and truncated to 24 chars.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;atproto.com&#x2F;specs&#x2F;did-plc#how-it-works" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;atproto.com&#x2F;specs&#x2F;did-plc#how-it-works</a><p>They could be using public keys as identifiers, why are they using nonsense?
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drngddsabout 2 years ago
Not necessarily endorsing this (I haven&#x27;t looked into the details of Bluesky myself) but one thing I don&#x27;t understand is - how does Bluesky intend to make money? Have they announced a plan? It&#x27;s a corporation, so obviously they have something in mind. But googling about it, I can&#x27;t find a good answer. Centralized social networks bank heavily on the network effect, but you don&#x27;t really have that if you make a genuinely decentralized network like Bluesky says they&#x27;re trying to.
nr2xabout 2 years ago
It’s fine to have a rational disagreement about systems design and deployment, but this borders on paranoid screed. Just because you don’t like something and other people do doesn’t mean it’s a scam.
Laaasabout 2 years ago
Why does everyone forget Matrix? There have been multiple truly decentralised Twitter clones on top of Matrix.
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mvkelabout 2 years ago
It may be a scam technically, and it may succeed commercially
jazzyjacksonabout 2 years ago
basically he&#x27;s mad nostril isn&#x27;t gaining traction
3000about 2 years ago
name is important, agree or not. this name, bluesky wont fly.